LeePatton

The first one pulling out also did not pose any danger I needed the first exit which was a 2 lane exit the car safely took the outside lane with me taking the inside lane it did not cause the car to brake or change speeds. My examiner simply said me out made him take the outside lane which I took on the chin and accepted but it was not dangerous like your suggesting. As for the second test. The highway code states if there is no visabal speed signs to use the surrounding area and traffic to gauge the speed limit. Not been familiar with the area, being no visible speed signs, street lights plus me and the examiner being the only 2 vehicles on the road how else was i supposed to gauge the speed limit for that 20-30 second period?

Yep, very frustrating having received no minors over the course of the two test yet walked away having failed twice :/ must of only been on that particular road for no more than 30 seconds or so too as it was passing through a housing estate! Will go again and next time if in doubt and cant see a speed sign go at the lower speed as it should only be a minor for use of speed. However, with my luck will probably fail me haha

Yep, I have accepted it is what it is now. My riding is perfectly fine hence no minors over the course of 2 full tests just 2 very silly things failed me. Is annoying that the examiner however didn't use some common sense and let it slide considering we where the only 2 on that particular road at 11am. Good friend of mine passed his Mod 2 last month with 7 minors and a telling off for doing 40mph down a 30mph after missing the change of speed limit sign :/

Yep, I think the examiner just have no consistency what so ever. I spoke with a good friend of mine who passed his Mod 2 last month with 7 minors and the examiner said to him in the debrief "Congratulation you have passed. However, you did go 40pmh down a 30mph road passed the industrial estate so try be more vigilant with the change of speed signs" Have come to accept it is what it is and just got to stick at it because my riding is perfectly fine, just failed on 2 really stupid things

So ... I first sat my Mod 2 Test back on 10th of Aug. I failed this test after a very solid ride and completing the test with zero minors I was failed for one serious fault. The fault was I was approaching my first roundabout of the test, done all my checks etc and seen a car coming round with his left indicator on so presumed he was going to come off before my junction so committed to pull out. As I pulled out it soon become obvious the driver of the brand new lexis didn't know how to use his indicators correctly and because of this resulted in me pulling out on him and failing my test. Lesson learned, don't trust other road users and presume if they are indicating to turn that they are actually going too, only pull out when I 100% know its safe to do so. Second test sat this morning I also failed! Again, no minors and one serious fault for going 25mph through a 20mph zone. Soon as he said this I knew exactly which road he was referring to without even asking and stepped in to explain myself. I did not know the area he took me at all and as I hit that road within a housing estate I was in two minds whether it was a 20 or 30 zone. I did not see a change of speed limit sign upon joining the road and could not see any repeaters so used other traffic to try and gauge the speed limit. Me and my examiner being the only vehicles on the road I checked my mirrors and started off at 20mph. My examiner being right up my backside made me then think oh well it must be a 30 zone. With that being said and still unsure I notched up to 25mph again checking my mirrors to see if my examiner followed or held back at 20mph, he followed maintaining the same gap as when I was travelling at 20mph so I continued doing 25mph as it was not safe to get up to 30mph based on amount parked cars etc which resulted in me failing! I immediately challenged him on this and his response was "You shouldn't be using me as a gauge of what the speed limit is" that still doesn't excuse the fact if I was breaking the speed limit, then so was he! Anyways, enough ranting and was just wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences as I am feeling very disappointed in the outcome of my tests. The first not so much but especially my test this morning with my instructor saying any other day the examiner would of simply had a word on the debrief and at worst given a minor for it but not failed me for the sake of a few mph on a short stretch of road when he could very clearly see I was a confident rider having no faults and sticking to every other speed limit throughout the test perfectly fine