[mention]mikestrivens[/mention] Yeah - the J&S ive been too before.. great advice when buying the clothing needed! I shall do that actually tomorrow morning! [mention]fastbob[/mention] - Yeah quite possibly, and yeah the problem begins from 3rd gear onwards while riding too! ! I was worried the chain was looser than it should? But its hard to judge when I'm not experienced with bikes (yet). - But I've just brought a chain and socket set like suggested and see how that goes, I'm someone who is confident with home d-i-y on motors anyway, so shouldnt be too much an issue (hopefully)! And yeah, some links have slightly bigger angles than that image! - Andy.