NeilM Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Morning all.So I've got myself involved in the above. Those of you with school age kids may already be aware of it.It's basically an annual appeal for toys, hygiene products and educational bits and pieces which are then despatched in a shoe box to under privileged kids. The only real stipulation is that anything has to be able to fit in the box and no war related items. E.g. toy guns etc.I have so far got 4 power stations collecting on my behalf and thought why not give you reprebates a go too. I am doing it from St Joseph's RC church Batley Carr and the adjoining school. Any help with this would be much appreciated. Either in the form of an already made up box or financial whereby we would then go out and purchase appropriate items. (All boxes are opened and 're distributed fairly prior to sending) Any offers of help please get in touch Further info can be found by simply googling operation Christmas child.If you do you will see there is a £5 despatch cost against each box. Do not let this put you off. I have got my work to pay for any despatch costs.Cheers Neil.Stu. I hope this is reyt on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I've worked with a number of charities and am a trustee of a couple. I also work in schools and check the background of groups seeking our support. We've supported this initiative in the past but having checked into their background and practices it is one we no longer feel able to support.I'm not suggesting people shouldn't support them, just check them out beforehand. Make an informed decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbeef Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Are second hand toys wanted? Having a bit of a clear out before xmas of current toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 We've supported this initiative in the past but having checked into their background and practices it is one we no longer feel able to support. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NeilM Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 I've worked with a number of charities and am a trustee of a couple. I also work in schools and check the background of groups seeking our support. We've supported this initiative in the past but having checked into their background and practices it is one we no longer feel able to support.I'm not suggesting people shouldn't support them, just check them out beforehand. Make an informed decision. Little confused by this.Please elaborate. This is being run through the church and the Samaritans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Are second hand toys wanted? Having a bit of a clear out before xmas of current toys. I'm decent condition certainly mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 We've supported this initiative in the past but having checked into their background and practices it is one we no longer feel able to support. Why?http://www.secularism.org.uk/opinion/2016/10/advice-for-parents-wanting-to-give-the-evangelical-operation-christmas-child-shoebox-scheme-a-wide-berth Going off google they are bible bashing bigoted religious nutters.http://emilyjoypoetry.com/7-reasons-not-to-participate-in-operation-christmas-child-this-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 All I will say is.This is done through the church. Some May call us left footers nutters??Who knows.If you want to help help if not that's fine and it's each individuals prerogative to have an opinion .I've been collecting for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 All I will say is.This is done through the church. Some May call us left footers nutters??Who knows.If you want to help help if not that's fine and it's each individuals prerogative to have an opinion .I've been collecting for years.so has our bin man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 [mention]Bender[/mention] - I'm not a religious type so am not in a massive rush to do good work in the name of the almighty. However, quote mining some old tosh from rabid "antis" doesn't go far by way of an answer to my question. It also makes you look like a bit of a tit.[mention]goody[/mention] - mildly amusing if not very helpful.[mention]Stu[/mention] - You might as well give me the mod spot now as Six showed his arse on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Everyone has to make their mind up who to support. I'm not going into why we decided against OCC but there's plenty of churches and other groups who have stopped participating in their operations. I've worked overseas with people supported by the likes of UNICEF and Christian Aid and know what benefits charities can make, but in those cases the charities work with local people supporting them find local solutions to the issues faced with no strings attached.There was some bloke with a beard, sandals and a bunch of mates who were fishermen, who said, when you give don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing. In other words, give unconditionally with no other motive. I'm currently sending goods to people through a charity, but when they open the box all they find is the items they asked for. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 @Bender - I'm not a religious type so am not in a massive rush to do good work in the name of the almighty. However, quote mining some old tosh from rabid "antis" doesn't go far by way of an answer to my question. It also makes you look like a bit of a tit.@goody - mildly amusing if not very helpful.@Stu - You might as well give me the mod spot now as Six showed his arse on this one. Mildly amusing? I think diverting a religious war is more deserving than that......nah ya right could of done better will try harder next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 [mention]Mr Fro[/mention] Ohh personal insults Girl guides also disassociated them selves from it there are so many who have done that i couldn't even be bothered to continue , no doubt they are all anti everything, a question was asked when google gives lots of answers and an answer was given that someone obviously didn't like.To be honest any group that is going to use other peoples charity to push there own view of religion i would not be supporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 If anyone wants to help get in touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 @Bender - I'm not a religious type so am not in a massive rush to do good work in the name of the almighty. However, quote mining some old tosh from rabid "antis" doesn't go far by way of an answer to my question. It also makes you look like a bit of a tit.@goody - mildly amusing if not very helpful.@Stu - You might as well give me the mod spot now as Six showed his arse on this one. right wing religion .... I thought anything right wing was a no no and should be condemned to hell, any religion come to think of it ..and Fro you've got no chance of the mod job .. you said arse , first warning son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Fro you've got no chance of the mod job .. you said arse , first warning son Bovvad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawsley Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 This is being run through the church and the Samaritans. FYI - it's not run by "The Samaritans" - it's run by Samaritan's Purse, an American evangelical organisation. They pull in $414,031,085+ from this stuff every year.Samaritan's Purse is controlled by Franklin Graham, who trousers a massive wedge because God wills it; he's a Far-Right homophobe and racist.If there is a God I suspect he'd want to smite Graham good and proper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Or she of course.I imagine the ring wing type will have a bit of shock when they find out He is just as much a She. They forget the bit about humanity made in the divine image is both male and female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 Jesus.Started summat here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Jesus.Started summat here Religion causing a bit of strife whoddanthunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 Jesus.Started summat here Religion causing a bit of strife whoddanthunk Was only asking for a yoyo and a tube of tooth paste for poor kids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 of the things my Dad told me years ago was never talk about religionor politics in the Pub! Same things apply to forums really I've been watching this thread but it's just about ok so far I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 of the things my Dad told me years ago was never talk about religionor politics in the Pub! Same things apply to forums really I've been watching this thread but it's just about ok so far I think I am behaving Rennie Keep n eye on six though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 Religion n politics should always be kept at the door of any good drinking establishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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