As it's Sunday morning...

[mention]MarkW[/mention]

He so knew exactly what he was doing. The zoomed in footage of his fingers walking forward for a grope yuk. He obviously done that so many times he did it automatically in front of millions. Imagine what else he thinks is ok behind closed doors. What a creep.

That frozen face of hers is also painful because even in this day and age she doesn’t feel she can remove his hand or take him to task over it. That only happens when you’ve been touched up so often you accept it as something you have to put up with which of course she doesn’t. I’m glad I don’t have daughters.

She should have chinned him. Mind you, that would have been a gift for the tabloids: "Ariana Grande bashes the bishop."

Now he's been caught having a good grope he just needs to do one of those American televangelist stunts by writhing around in a Pentecostalist frenzy and asking people to pray for him and send in donations. And they would do as well. America - truly the land of opportunity.

She should have chinned him. Mind you, that would have been a gift for the tabloids: "Ariana Grande bashes the bishop."

Now he's been caught having a good grope he just needs to do one of those American televangelist stunts by writhing around in a Pentecostalist frenzy and asking people to pray for him and send in donations. And they would do as well. America - truly the land of opportunity.

Lol. Yeh or do that other thing they love doing, setting up a new religion with rules that allow whatever miscreants a free pass.

Donald Trumps chosen version Christianity is rather a good one. It believes that being rich is gods reward for the ones he favours. So the richer you are the more favoured by god you are. You couldn’t make it up!

I suppose she did a good job in a way because there’s nothing there for people to pitch into her for and he looks like a douche.

Poor Aretha her own father was a philandering orgy indulging church Minister, perhaps this guy trained under him?!

I have a daughter, he would have broken fingers by now, yes the Lord does work in mysterious ways.

One thing you can tell from that photo without any need to look it up on the internet.

he is not a catholic.. she is both far too old and the wrong gender.

Photos like that make my stomach churn.. I was raised as a catholic (indoctrinated more like) and looking back on my childhood all I can say is... i was very lucky. very VERY lucky to emerge from it on the other side - unscathed.

One thing you can tell from that photo without any need to look it up on the internet.

he is not a catholic.. she is both far too old and the wrong gender.

Photos like that make my stomach churn.. I was raised as a catholic (indoctrinated more like) and looking back on my childhood all I can say is... i was very lucky. very VERY lucky to emerge from it on the other side - unscathed.

That's a bit unfair on American Catholics: it's not their fault that they misheard the 2001 'No Child Left Behind' education act as 'No Child's Behind Left."

Lol. Yeh or do that other thing they love doing, setting up a new religion with rules that allow whatever miscreants a free pass.

Sounds like Mormonism - proof positive that no matter how blatant the charlatinism there will always be plenty of willing disciples.

You probably weren’t weak enough for them. They pick weak ones they know will stay quiet. I had the misfortune to be one of those people they like to try it with. I’m so much happier now I’m too old for them! They seem to make a bee line small framed people. They rarely pushed passed their first attempt because I wasn’t a quiet or compliant so it was too risky but I saw how they do it. Had to rescue more than one friend.

They usually have some authority over you and start of with a little tap, squeeze or hold and if it’s tolerated they build it up from there.

People who’ve had that crap happen to them tend to freeze and that’s pretty much they look for. It’s pretty sick. Jimmy Saville was an example of a consummate molester.

[mention]Bender[/mention] don’t know how old your daughter is but if she’s young my advice to you would be make sure your daughter knows how to be loud, how to vigorously remove someone’s hands and never be afraid to say loudly “I don’t appreciate you touching me don’t ever do it again” never had a problem with a groper after saying that, well a little problem where they then hate you for not allowing it and if your unlucky will then punish you using whatever power they have. In reality a lot of women don’t know how to stop it and rarely tell anyone. I got into some right royal scrapes n near misses when I was younger but fortunately had a strong enough personality to get myself out of them- never said anything to my parents about any of them for lots of reasons but it was firmly in my mind my father may well kill them and I’d rather whatever had happened just went away without my father going to prison!

We still assign very strong gender roles to our children. Girls should be sweet, pretty and not show anger, boys should be tough, not show weakness or cry. Sad that with all the movement forward this country has made a recent report showed 24% of teenage girls cut themselves, the reasons they give are pressure to look good and pressure to do well at school. Placing them in an emotional straight jacket where airing unfeminine emotions is frowned on leads to internalising things that cause them damage.

As you can tell it’s something I feel strongly about. I hate anything that hamstrings people and stops them reaching their potential and what for? A few preconceived notions.

I wrote this rather long post and have spent 20minutes dithering about posting it because it’s long (sorry six30) and a bit dark but if the info helps just one girl it’s worth it.

We really should teach children how to stop unwanted attention with a bit more than “tell an adult” because by the time there’s something to tell it’s too late.

I'm glad you did.

Thanks.

[mention]Slowlycatchymonkey[/mention]

Daughter is old enough and scary enough to look after herself (mostly) and yes unfortunately they do need to be aware of the dangers in the world and also those who would try to do them harm should be aware that dads have a large collection of equally sharp and blunt implements and are more than prepared to do time.

Dads are and that’s one of the reasons they never hear about it! Mind you mere the sight of my dad seemed to scare the living daylights out of everyone. They would almost without fail say in a slightly shakey voice “you dads big isn’t he” lol

I understand what you mean about a large weapons arsenal. Imagine my horror when my sons maths tutors wife rang me and said he’d unfortunately not be able to continue with his private tuition and I then discover why. Hundreds of child porn pics on his computer. He was charged with ‘making pornographic images’

I felt sick and the bottom fell out of my world, I’d dropped him there every week for an hour and sat outside in the car. Fortunately my son is extremely large and wasn’t his type but if he hadn’t already been taken into custody I don’t think I would have been able to control myself!

Yup it's not just the girl children you have to worry about.

Yup it's not just the girl children you have to worry about.

True. And it's not just the priests or the paedos at the school gates you have to worry about these days: danger lurks online in ways our parents never had to deal with.

Just for the record, there are priests who spend a lifetime working for the good of children, like building two new schools against all the bureaucracy of local government who tried to keep the pupils in damp, ugly, cold buildings unfit for purpose.

Priests who spend their time off running outward bound courses for children from families where they'd never get those kind of opportunities.

Priests who endure countless hours of mind crushingly boring meetings led by "experts' who have no idea what teachers face these days...just to make what small changes can be made for the better.

So like motorcyclists, there are good ones and bad ones. When you talk about people in a way that rwrites them off just because of who they are it's an unhealthy trend.

Also just for the record.

What's with the Catholic baiting? It's strange and still a sad part of Our society that we all seem to have the inbuilt ability to suddenly turn into orange men.

Reiterate the above.

We do have good and bad amongst us in all walks of life.

I class a Catholic priest as a very good friend.

And the shite they have to go through now to just do their job is unreal.

Yes issues were there. Probably still are but it's not just sodding Catholics.

You telling me that the protestant church have no kiddie fiddlers????

But Catholics have been the easy target for centuries so why stop now eh?

Why not start building bonfires and singing the famines over!!!

The point about leaving your kids with people/groups etc.

I found the best way was to stop with them for the first couple of times.

Suss it out n make your presence felt.

I also educated my 2 to be comfortable telling us anything.

I was referring to unwanted contact by anyone from any arena, it can come from anywhere.

The only thing I’d amend is I should have said “help a single girl or boy” rather than just girl but as I was kinda referring to benders daughter at the time so I’m letting myself off!

As for Catholic bashing I feel very sorry for any decent person trying to do a good job in an institution that’s currently suffering like they are on the image front. The studies that have been done did not reveal a creep level any higher than estimated in the general population which is 4% however they were able to repeat offend without consequence making the number of incidences much higher.

The reason they are currently getting a hammering though is down to the handling- moving a known abuser to another location to a new vulnerable audience who are clueless and allowing repeat offenders to stay in positions putting them in direct contact with fresh meat.

Sadly police reports 40 suicides in Victoria alone are attributed to abuse by priests.

Or perhaps it’s the near 4 billion pounds spent to keep victims quiet or the complete denial it even occurred.

Or that they never reported anyone to the authorities or got rid of them.

Or that they are obstructive, secretive and uncooperative with investigations.

So they really haven’t done themselves any favours.

I’m sure if you knew there was a fiddler at the end of the road you wouldn’t stand by while they helped out at the local school. Have a read into it and see if you feel the same, it’s quite damning.

That's not really what I was referring to.

Every peado. Irrespective of religion. Race or colour deserves what they get.

I was infering to our society which all too quickly reverts back to the centuries old tradition of sectarianism against the Catholics and that the Catholics are an easy target.

This is probably not far from how they think.,

This is probably not far from how they think.,

Some of them!!!!

Not all of them.

Six. Don't you fxxxxxxx start

I don't see any post on here saying all of any one were pedos, some slight over reactions me thinks, I was an alter boy how many horror stories do you want.

This is probably not far from how they think.,

 

Some of them!!!!

Not all of them.

Six. Don't you fxxxxxxx start

Your not a priest are you Neil

This is probably not far from how they think.,

 

Some of them!!!!

Not all of them.

Six. Don't you fxxxxxxx start

 

Your not a priest are you Neil

Do I look like priest

No. But I'm Catholic.

Kids n r lass still practise.

I do all health n safety stuff for the local church and I'm really good mates with a priest.

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