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Ultra slow control on a big bike

#1 Post by Beans » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:20 pm

I'd like to ask the collective for some advice on the major niggle I'm having with my riding, post DAS. I've gone from a 125 to a 1000cc bike. In very slow moving traffic, and I mean inching along, I'm having trouble getting my speed slow enough. Consequently I'm stopping and going, stopping and going.
I wonder if this is a result of a few things:
The bike will move with a closed throttle.
I'm not using the clutch fully, even though I think I am.
Motorbikes (big ones) don't like to roll along at 3mph.

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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#2 Post by mikestrivens » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:34 pm

Slip the clutch and use the foot brake will give you more control also keep revs up the gyroscope action helps to keep bike upright.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#3 Post by JRH » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:41 pm

:stupid:
Use revs, rear brake and clutch all the time with constant adjustments to achieve the speed you need.
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#4 Post by Beans » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:46 pm

So I think I am doing this :stupid: and I'm sure I could do it on the 125.

But there seems so much power now at none or virtually no throttle that I have to use loads of clutch to moderate it. But on the slightest decline too much clutch has the bike rolling due to its weight.
I guess I need to forget about throttle and balance clutch against rear brake. And get more accepting of coasting.
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#5 Post by JRH » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:52 pm

Yes on a decline do not be afraid of pulling the clutch in and just using the brake to control the speed.
I quite often pull the clutch in and just roll.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#6 Post by mikestrivens » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:52 pm

Use more rear brake to offset the throttle, but you still needs revs otherwise it will stall and you risk dropping it.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#7 Post by JRH » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:01 pm

@Beans find a nice emptyish car park and just practice slow riding as in the Mod1.
And as Mike says make sure you always have revs on and if you need to brake hard pull the clutch.
It is hard to put in words how you actually ride in certain ways because eventually it will become second nature and you won't even think about what you are doing.
If the pace is becoming too slow then just stop for a short time and allow a gap to open then ride to close it.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#8 Post by rennie » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:51 pm

It's just practice/confidence! :D
try not to overthink it and just do it :lol:
I quite often creep along with no throttle at all
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#9 Post by kingmunky » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:10 am

Yeah, everything mentioned above. Practice in a big, empty space doing ~3mph in straight lines, full-lock turns and figure-8s.

Keep the revs consistent and slip the clutch to move forward, keep on the back brake gently for stability. Practice slowing and starting up again by either easing off the brake or the clutch, not at the same time - that's when things get wobbly.

Bit of practice you'l' be grand :thumb:

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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#10 Post by mikestrivens » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:28 pm

i forgot to say Do not touch the front brake.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#11 Post by Fleck » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:44 pm

Don't look down at the road, it makes you wobble, keep your head up.
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#12 Post by MarkW » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:55 pm

All of the above, plus try to stay relaxed - especially with your upper body. Gripping too tightly because you feel wobbly will make you more wobbly. And trust the bike - it can go a lot slower than you think and still stay upright. :thumb:
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#13 Post by Tango » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:34 pm

Some days I can come to a complete stop before putting my feet down.....Other days I've got my feet trailing at 5-10mpg to keep my balance......A lot depends on the road surface and camber too.
I find that keeping the rev's low and just holding the clutch on the biting point and feathering the rear brake works for me in slow traffic (when I can't filter)...... :wink:
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#14 Post by Beans » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:48 pm

I appreciate all the advice. Thanks.

To be clear I can ride slowly, u turns are my strong point but my problem is that inching along speed. I'm practicing. :cheers:
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Re: Ultra slow control on a big bike

#15 Post by griptwister » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 pm

I would suggest that a trip to your mechanic might help. Some bigger bikes can be a handful at very low speeds if there is a mechanical or setup problem such as carburettor imbalance.

I would have it checked over to make sure it is mechanically sweet and running well. The problem may not be with you.