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Charging my battery

#1 Post by Sam » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:08 pm

:?: WARNING: TOTAL NOOB :!:

Can anyone help me with a walk through for charging my battery please? Think it's at the end of it's life to be honest but I need it charging if possible so I can get it into the garage. Bought it 3rd hand after it had been stood for 6 months. Worked fine for about 4 days but now it's packed in.

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Re: Charging my battery

#2 Post by Six30 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:15 pm

No Micky taking here, I run a tight ship :thumb:
Just take the battery off , no need to take it to a garage, go get a new one and chuck it on .. easy .
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Re: Charging my battery

#3 Post by Sam » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:38 pm

Thanks. :thumb: Well I wanted to go get it all checked over....I've got an oil leak too so wanted it fixing at the same time (my drive looks awful) I have seen batteries on ebay actually, just wanted to see if I could get a few days out of it, pay someone to do it (while I will watch and learn) then get this oil sorted too.

I'm totally new to the whole thing but extremely keen to learn.

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Re: Charging my battery

#4 Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:04 pm

If charging a motorcycle battery you need to do it at lower amps than a standard car battery charger.

When disconnecting a battery (if you're replacing it) then always disconnect the earth first and reconnect it last.

IE:

1. Disconnect earth
2. Disconnect live
Replace battery
3. Connect live
4. Connect earth

That way when you are undoing the live terminal if your spanner or screwdriver touches the bodywork there's no circuit. They may only be 12v but they can pack a lot of current and a shorted battery can explode.

Batteries don't like being left in a discharged state so if yours was left like that chances are the battery needs replacing. Don't buy a cheap one, it's false economy.
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Re: Charging my battery

#5 Post by Westbeef » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:12 pm

You'll be able to pick that up very easily without having to pay someone.

Your battery will be under the seat so you remove that. Then you should have a cover over the battery which you can lift open. Then follow the steps above and you're away.

Things like an oximiser or optimate are what you want for charging a bike battery but yours sounds very dead so you'll definitely want a new one. You could charge it and possibly get 3-4 days or you might get a day. Depends how buggered it is.


Edit: Google says your battery might be accessed via a panel on the LH side under the seat.
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Re: Charging my battery

#6 Post by Speedy23 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm

If your battery has little caps on the cells, try adding 1/2 a Bat-Aid (no, honestly, Google it!) pill to each cell, making sure that they are topped up with distilled water so the tops of the plates are just covered. Then put it on charge overnight....I've rescued some right basket cases like this - might be good for another few months or so.
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Re: Charging my battery

#7 Post by TimR » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Speedy23 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm
If your battery has little caps on the cells, try adding 1/2 a Bat-Aid (no, honestly, Google it!) pill to each cell, making sure that they are topped up with distilled water so the tops of the plates are just covered. Then put it on charge overnight....I've rescued some right basket cases like this - might be good for another few months or so.
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To the others
before telling someone to charge a battery make sure the electrolyte level is sufficent
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Re: Charging my battery

#8 Post by Westbeef » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:32 pm

TimR wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:26 pm
Speedy23 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm
If your battery has little caps on the cells, try adding 1/2 a Bat-Aid (no, honestly, Google it!) pill to each cell, making sure that they are topped up with distilled water so the tops of the plates are just covered. Then put it on charge overnight....I've rescued some right basket cases like this - might be good for another few months or so.
finally someone with some sense
To the others
before telling someone to charge a battery make sure the electrolyte level is sufficent
Most batteries these days are AGM and the fill up yourself types are phasing out.
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Re: Charging my battery

#9 Post by Grumpy Old Git » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:43 pm

Anyone want any Battery Acid - I have quite a bit left over from working on 'old' bikes. Can bring to t'rally if needed.

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Re: Charging my battery

#10 Post by Speedy23 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Grumpy Old Git wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:43 pm
Anyone want any Battery Acid - I have quite a bit left over from working on 'old' bikes. Can bring to t'rally if needed.

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Just don't bring it in a soft drink bottle while you're riding your moped....... :shock: . .
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Re: Charging my battery

#11 Post by TimR » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:07 pm

Westbeef wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:32 pm
TimR wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:26 pm
Speedy23 wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:05 pm
If your battery has little caps on the cells, try adding 1/2 a Bat-Aid (no, honestly, Google it!) pill to each cell, making sure that they are topped up with distilled water so the tops of the plates are just covered. Then put it on charge overnight....I've rescued some right basket cases like this - might be good for another few months or so.
finally someone with some sense
To the others
before telling someone to charge a battery make sure the electrolyte level is sufficent
Most batteries these days are AGM and the fill up yourself types are phasing out.
which may be the case but if someone is asking about how to charge a battery that would show a level of their knowledge is limited .
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Re: Charging my battery

#12 Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:15 pm

Grumpy Old Git wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:43 pm
Anyone want any Battery Acid - I have quite a bit left over from working on 'old' bikes. Can bring to t'rally if needed.

8-)
I read somewhere that battery acid has now been declared a substance which requires a licence to handle. Since Joe Public is unlikely to hold such a licence dry batteries will now have to be taken to a garage to be filled. So technically you'd risk prosecution taking it to a rally to be shared.

Silly really as we've all used it for years but I agree with the caution voiced here about the dangers of batteries. I've seen several accidents but usually caused by shorts rather than the electrolyte itself. However, we live in world where people do silly things and don't want to take responsibility for their actions, so regulations step in.

Of the batteries I have there's only one that you can still check the level of, the rest are all sealed. The one I have is about 20 years old so my guess is fewer and fewer batteries are in use which can be topped up.
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Re: Charging my battery

#13 Post by fastbob » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:13 am

Sam wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:38 pm
Thanks. :thumb: Well I wanted to go get it all checked over....I've got an oil leak too so wanted it fixing at the same time (my drive looks awful) I have seen batteries on ebay actually, just wanted to see if I could get a few days out of it, pay someone to do it (while I will watch and learn) then get this oil sorted too.

I'm totally new to the whole thing but extremely keen to learn.
You have been given the correct advice, get a new battery. If you ride around with a knackered battery you could fry your rectifier / regulator which will cost you more money. And please don't pay anybody to fit a battery even if they do let you watch . All you do is un bolt the leads and swap batteries then put the leads back on .

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Re: Charging my battery

#14 Post by fastbob » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:19 am

Grumpy Old Git wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:43 pm
Anyone want any Battery Acid - I have quite a bit left over from working on 'old' bikes. Can bring to t'rally if needed.

8-)
Ahh , I remember when everyone took acid at rallies 😵

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Re: Charging my battery

#15 Post by Westbeef » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:48 am

fastbob wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:13 am
Sam wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:38 pm
Thanks. :thumb: Well I wanted to go get it all checked over....I've got an oil leak too so wanted it fixing at the same time (my drive looks awful) I have seen batteries on ebay actually, just wanted to see if I could get a few days out of it, pay someone to do it (while I will watch and learn) then get this oil sorted too.

I'm totally new to the whole thing but extremely keen to learn.
You have been given the correct advice, get a new battery. If you ride around with a knackered battery you could fry your rectifier / regulator which will cost you more money. And please don't pay anybody to fit a battery even if they do let you watch . All you do is un bolt the leads and swap batteries then put the leads back on .
There's a receipt with my bike where someone paid £60 for a battery and an additional £60 for fitting it. :shock:
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