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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#16 Post by Liveware Problem » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:47 pm

Tankbag wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:38 pm
Liveware Problem wrote:
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Hoggs wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:47 pm
my bike has no engine braking. so I probably bulk shift down but I can't be sure :lol:
Seriously, how come? Mine is an inline 4 and still has plenty of engine breaking!
TRE mod ?
Is that not for EFI engines only? (I had to Google it, never heard of it before :lol:)

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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#17 Post by Hoggs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:19 am

old and knackered?
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#18 Post by marcom » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:22 am

Tango wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:54 pm

Me personally, I shift down through the box one gear at a time, whilst braking (using engine braking too).....a little blip of the throttle whilst shifting the gear, to match the rev's. .... 8-)
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#19 Post by Stu » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:55 am

Tankbag wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:38 pm
Liveware Problem wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:34 pm
Hoggs wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:47 pm
my bike has no engine braking. so I probably bulk shift down but I can't be sure :lol:
Seriously, how come? Mine is an inline 4 and still has plenty of engine breaking!
TRE mod ?
Every bike has engine braking just some not as good as others.... Try riding a 2 stroke then you will know what no engine braking is or even better still an electric bike :lol:

A TRE doesn't affect engine braking either they just fool the ecu in to thinking it's in a higher gear to give full power in the lower rev range as the power was limited in the first few gears :)

And as for changing I go down each gear and very rarely need to go down two at a time as I very rarely need to slow down fast enough to require it! Reading the road and doing the appropriate speed and slowing down in plenty of time aids this :)
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#20 Post by Joeman » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:44 am

Block shifting means you are basically coasting with the clutch pulled in. That's doesn't make for a very stable bike.
On my bike (and most litre bikes) any legal speed i can be in first gear if I want, all depends how much noise I want to make.
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#21 Post by MR_W » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:13 am

Block shift in the car and on the bike as all modern gearboxes handle it.

My bike has a slipper clutch so I tend to just dump gears now with the clutch and let the slipper do its job if needed cos i dropped too many too quick. I can confirm they work but I'd rather not rely on it.
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#22 Post by Tankbag » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:01 am

Joeman wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:44 am

On my bike (and most litre bikes) any legal speed i can be in first gear if I want, all depends how much noise I want to make.
I forgot, I pretty much stay in 3rd :lol:
If it cant be fixed with a hammer you have an electrical problem

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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#23 Post by Tankbag » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:04 am

Liveware Problem wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:47 pm
Tankbag wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:38 pm
Liveware Problem wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:34 pm


Seriously, how come? Mine is an inline 4 and still has plenty of engine breaking!
TRE mod ?
Is that not for EFI engines only? (I had to Google it, never heard of it before :lol:)
I did put a question mark :lol: :cheers:
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#24 Post by Liveware Problem » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:20 pm

Hoggs wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:19 am
old and knackered?
But that would equally apply to my bike :lol:
Mind you your's is a full on supersports engine, mine is detuned.

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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#25 Post by DJP » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:45 pm

I quite often block change on cars, but on bikes I always change down sequentially with a rev change between each shift.

Just seems logical to me since you have to go "through" each gear anyway.

And I very seldom use engine breaking unless I'm going down a really steep hill and don't want the bike "running away" I certainly don't use it as a matter of course.

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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#26 Post by bonio » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:59 pm

Sometimes I do one and sometimes the other. If I really want to lose speed quickly then I brake firmly, and block shift down to a suitable gear. For a more relaxed experience 8-), it's one gear at a time with some engine braking in between.
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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#27 Post by Liveware Problem » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:36 pm

I'd struggle without engine breaking I think. Is it bad for the transmission?

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Re: Downshifting how do you do it?

#28 Post by MR_W » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:27 pm

If you over rely on engine braking it can cause the chain to stretch faster from experience. Too many gears down causes the bike to lock up the rear potentially so I'd be more worried about the damage to yourself at that point.
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