ABBA stand woes

Motorbike related? Can't find what you're looking for below? Then post here!!
Message
Author
User avatar
learningtofly
Posts: 619
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 2018 Street Triple R
Location: North London/Herts
Has Liked: 285 times
Been Liked: 263 times

ABBA stand woes

#1 Post by learningtofly » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:11 am

I snagged an ABBA stand at the NEC recently, with fittings no. 052 - the correct number for my 2018 Street Triple R (having subsequently checked with ABBA). My problem, though, is that however many times I try I can't manage to get the stand securely on the bike such that I can then lift it off the ground. The problem is that the fitting on the left hand side always seems to detach from the swing arm nut.

I'm sure it's me, but is anyone using the stand successfully on the same bike? if so, did you have any difficulties initially?

mikestrivens
Posts: 2891
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:41 am
Bike(s): Triumph Tiger 800 XCx 2015
Location: Peak District nr. Stockport
Has Liked: 817 times
Been Liked: 912 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#2 Post by mikestrivens » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:50 am

sounds like something else on the stand is not properly tightened up.
Regards
Mike Strivens

Bikes:
Triumph Tiger 800 XCx, 2015,
used to have Honda VFR800 & Harley Fatboy
Cars:
Mercedes SL500 R129 V8 (1999); Mercedes E320 W124 S6 (1995); Mercedes S600 W140 V12 (1995).

User avatar
Mickly
Posts: 627
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:32 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 15my Speed Triple / 1994 1200 triumph Trophy
Location: Coventry
Challenge Score: 80
Has Liked: 135 times
Been Liked: 323 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#3 Post by Mickly » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:07 am

I use on on my Speed Triple, only problems I’ve had is the LH fitting scratching the frame ( user error ... grrrr ) and the LH fitting being such a snug fit that I have to use grips to remove it.

I spoke to the ABBA people at the NEC who said that it has to be snug due to the way it works and are aware that there can be issues with that range, but if I sent it to them they would bring it down and re-anodise it for free - I haven’t bothered.

If yours does not fit at all, then a bit of measuring maybe required.
Is it one with a cup and centre pin ( as per the Speed Triple )?
2019 challenge points
Pubs: 20
Dealerships: 30
West Midlands: 30

User avatar
JRH
The Hoggfather!
Posts: 3887
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:10 am
Gender: Male
Bike(s): Bandit1250
Location: Warwickshire
Challenge Score: 230
Has Liked: 751 times
Been Liked: 946 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#4 Post by JRH » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:13 am

can you take a photo of the problem area?
Current Bandit 1250 :D
Previous GP125 GSX250 GT750(had 2) GPX750


Image

2019 challenge 100


Pubs 10 / 10
West Midlands 5 / 12
East Midlands 0 / 12
Dealers 2 / 10
Tracks 1/ 20

User avatar
learningtofly
Posts: 619
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 2018 Street Triple R
Location: North London/Herts
Has Liked: 285 times
Been Liked: 263 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#5 Post by learningtofly » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:34 am

Thanks guys. Just spoken to ABBA, and it seems that my problem is not holding the left side on firmly enough as I attach the right side. I've got some chores to do this morning but I'm hoping to give it another go later before I go to football!

User avatar
Tankbag
Posts: 2569
Joined: Sat May 07, 2011 11:16 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): Hayabusa Gen1
Location: South Staffordshire
Has Liked: 697 times
Been Liked: 251 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#6 Post by Tankbag » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:02 pm

learningtofly wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:34 am
Thanks guys. Just spoken to ABBA, and it seems that my problem is not holding the left side on firmly enough as I attach the right side. I've got some chores to do this morning but I'm hoping to give it another go later before I go to football!
I've had this problem I've found carefully lifting the arm that goes user the bike to make clearance to attach the part with the winder doesn't dislodge the other side, mostly :roll:
If it cant be fixed with a hammer you have an electrical problem

User avatar
learningtofly
Posts: 619
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:13 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 2018 Street Triple R
Location: North London/Herts
Has Liked: 285 times
Been Liked: 263 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#7 Post by learningtofly » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:48 pm

Hallelujah!!!

Image

I did have a minor incident after forgetting to put the sidestand back down, but we won't mention that :scratch:

User avatar
JRH
The Hoggfather!
Posts: 3887
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:10 am
Gender: Male
Bike(s): Bandit1250
Location: Warwickshire
Challenge Score: 230
Has Liked: 751 times
Been Liked: 946 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#8 Post by JRH » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:38 pm

Well done. :thumb: It's a knack to get everything lined up at first.
Current Bandit 1250 :D
Previous GP125 GSX250 GT750(had 2) GPX750


Image

2019 challenge 100


Pubs 10 / 10
West Midlands 5 / 12
East Midlands 0 / 12
Dealers 2 / 10
Tracks 1/ 20

User avatar
Fozzie
Posts: 11139
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:08 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 2013 Honda CBR600F
Location: Lymm
Has Liked: 44 times
Been Liked: 164 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#9 Post by Fozzie » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:16 am

Glad that worked out.

I sent my old one back, as I got one for my project Blackbird at the time.
I'd borrowed one on my smaller bikes like SV650's and CBR600's with no issues. But on the Blackbird, if the attachments were even fractionally out, it would correct during the lift with a very unsettling lurch/jolt and the first time I let go to grab the bike as I thought it was going over. I called them up and tried a few things but even when it was going right it was taking the paint off the frame and scoring the frame recesses so I didn't think it was fit for the job.

Was a shame but I've never had an issue using paddock stands and scissor lifts/axle stands to get the bike off the floor.
Working on bikes offers a therapy no amount of money can afford

User avatar
The GOAT
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:58 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): BMW HP4 @200bhp!
Location: Cumbria
Has Liked: 15 times
Been Liked: 40 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#10 Post by The GOAT » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:01 pm

I dropped my 10 miles old R1 off an Abba stand by not tightening it up enough :crybaby:

Still not over it, just take your time them them stands and they are all good :cheers:
Skynet-T800

User avatar
Mickly
Posts: 627
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:32 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): 15my Speed Triple / 1994 1200 triumph Trophy
Location: Coventry
Challenge Score: 80
Has Liked: 135 times
Been Liked: 323 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#11 Post by Mickly » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:31 am

I found the best way to fit the stand was to tap the LH fitting into place first then offer the stand up to it, this keeps the stand away from the frame and potential scratching.

And as @goat says, make sure it’s good and tight - if you’re a bit limp wristed use something on the tightening screw to give some mechanical advantage ( not too much though or you’ll crack the welds )
2019 challenge points
Pubs: 20
Dealerships: 30
West Midlands: 30

mikestrivens
Posts: 2891
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:41 am
Bike(s): Triumph Tiger 800 XCx 2015
Location: Peak District nr. Stockport
Has Liked: 817 times
Been Liked: 912 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#12 Post by mikestrivens » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:27 am

seems like an awful lot of bother when a paddock stand/s would do the job better.
Regards
Mike Strivens

Bikes:
Triumph Tiger 800 XCx, 2015,
used to have Honda VFR800 & Harley Fatboy
Cars:
Mercedes SL500 R129 V8 (1999); Mercedes E320 W124 S6 (1995); Mercedes S600 W140 V12 (1995).

User avatar
JRH
The Hoggfather!
Posts: 3887
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:10 am
Gender: Male
Bike(s): Bandit1250
Location: Warwickshire
Challenge Score: 230
Has Liked: 751 times
Been Liked: 946 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#13 Post by JRH » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:56 am

ABBA stand is better in some jobs, paddocks for others.
Rear paddock ok if you have bobbins not if you use the stand with cups. Got my ABBA for the GPX after the rear stand slipped a couple of time while getting the rear wheel out.
Also use the ABBA when working on the front when I need the wheel off the ground and be able to move the steering.
Current Bandit 1250 :D
Previous GP125 GSX250 GT750(had 2) GPX750


Image

2019 challenge 100


Pubs 10 / 10
West Midlands 5 / 12
East Midlands 0 / 12
Dealers 2 / 10
Tracks 1/ 20

User avatar
Tango
Moderator
Posts: 14661
Joined: Sat May 21, 2011 10:54 am
Gender: Male
Bike(s): Triumph Speed Triple 1050, CB750 Project bike
Location: Huntingdon, Cambs
Challenge Score: 20
Has Liked: 1633 times
Been Liked: 1235 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#14 Post by Tango » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:21 pm

mikestrivens wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:27 am
seems like an awful lot of bother when a paddock stand/s would do the job better.
Try servicing your rear shock linkages using a paddock stand...... :wink:
I feel the need....the need for Speed......Triple

User avatar
Stu
Site Admin
Posts: 32453
Joined: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:03 pm
Gender: Male
Bike(s): FJR1300 BMW F650ST
Location: hull
Has Liked: 2793 times
Been Liked: 2433 times

Re: ABBA stand woes

#15 Post by Stu » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:31 pm

Tango wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:21 pm
mikestrivens wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:27 am
seems like an awful lot of bother when a paddock stand/s would do the job better.
Try servicing your rear shock linkages using a paddock stand...... :wink:
Block of wood between tyre and subframe :wink:
Don't steal!.... the government hates competition!!!