griptwister wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:14 pm
I may have explained it badly.
Gang cultures exist in a civilised society, it is not about mindless violence although sometimes that happens, it is not about spending your time looking for ways to prove your manhood.
It is simply being responsible being strong reliable and decent treating people well and defending them, the qualities that we look up to in society but somehow seem sadly lacking. And unfortunately gangs tend to attract violence form other gangs. The shit sometimes does hit the fan and you have to man up when that happens. All that is seen then is the violence.
I remember reading a letter of thanks from a scooter rider who was in very real and immediate danger from a car being driven at him intending to wipe him out, a case of road rage gone very bad. A biker gang saw this and surrounded the car and dragged the motorist from his vehicle and gave him the pasting he deserved. They were not posturing they were not committing acts of mindless violence. They saw a fellow rider not part of their gang was in danger and acted. I would hope I would do the same.
I myself many times have stepped in to help people I am not looking for thanks by saying this, I'm not trying to get respect, its what you do if you are responsible and I would expect all of you would do the same. The reason I tell you this is I was shocked by the number of people who told me I was stupid and should have avoided the situation basically telling me to run away from danger and not help the victim. If you were being mugged wouldn't you want passers by to stop and help you rather than cover their face and walk swiftly past. Many people in our "civilised" society walk on past, it is a national disgrace.
There are gangs everywhere in the world and they are not confined to the schoolyard. They are often like minded folk who want to share their interests but formalised into a kind of family. They also can be hooligans and worse. But one thing unites them caring for the other members and the understanding that you will defend them no question.
West Side Story was about gang culture, about a man who had realised the futility of it and left the gang, then he was called back because of family and was compelled to defend the gang and then lost his life. Such things still happen in real life and they happen in England.
I am not trying here to paint a rosy picture of gangs and gang culture, I am also not trying to paint a rosy picture of me I don't need that, I am simply explaining however badly the thinking and motives of gangs as I have experienced them.
I would ask you to remember that the Royal Society of Chartered Accountants, the Masons, the Conservative Party, the BBC, and the local darts team are also gangs,
Gangs are everywhere and are not just Bikers or Football hooligans.
The sense of camaraderie and the demand to act correctly at all times and to defend other members exists in all gangs, but the threat of violence only exists in some.