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Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Arwen » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:11 am

Right... first off, I'm not completely sold on the idea of changing bikes, but I'm open to trying some others to see if I "should". I'm basically looking for advice/opinions/ideas on what to do next.

I've had the BMW for a year now, it is the factory lowered version, with the lowered seat as well. Even then, I can only get the ball of one foot on the ground at a time (or both big toes...). This is fine on roads I know, and so long as there is not a long wait at junctions in strong winds.
However more and more I am finding I am struggling with the weight of it when there is a decent cross wind when waiting at lights. Or if there is even a slight incline/decline/odd camber. I've dropped it twice now, once in my own garage, and the other when parking on a cobbled street.
I find I am making more and more excuses to take the MSX out rather than the BMW these days, purely cause it is so much easier for me to manually move around if need be. Which seems a shame as I do really enjoy riding the BMW, but the thought of having to stop on "problem" surfaces for me is putting me off big time.

I've got a few days off work at the end of September, when I'm hoping the weather will still be fine. My plan is to take the BMW out and basically practise horrible roads to see if I've just got a mental block with them that I can get over quickly.

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

I've came to the conclusion that I'd rather swap the bike than be put off riding it any more, so if I can't get used to problem surfaces with the bmw, anyone got any suggestions for other bikes to try? Open to pretty much any style apart from sporty plastic clad bikes. I like them naked :lol:

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Liveware Problem » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:38 am

How about an MT-07?

Wet weight of 179kg, which I believe is significantly lighter than your bike?

Everyone raves about its handling and engine, and I presume you could have it lowered too.

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Arwen » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:44 am

MT-07 was on my list before I bought the BMW. Sitting on it in the shops I felt it was "top heavy" due to the fuel tank being rather high. Think I may go try it again though... They are nice bikes!
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Liveware Problem » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:49 am

Ah right, KTM 690 or the new 790? Although I have a feeling they might be quite high.

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Arwen » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:13 pm

KTM... I really like them. The biggest put off for me is the local dealer is... questionable at the best of times. Not making an allegation here, but lets just say a number of nice KTM's seem to go missing after they have been in for work there.

I'm actually rather interesting in the Honda Neo Sport range. I may take the little 300 out for a spin and see what I think. I don't really need a powerful bike, I never ride two up and rarely carry more than a rucksack worth of stuff.

however, back to my current bike. I've been reading up on suspension settings... would making the rear suspension very soft make much of a difference to the handling?
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by fullscreenaging » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:33 pm

Could you look at getting the seat remoulded to make it lower? I’m sure there will be someone near you that you could go and talk to.

You could then look on eBay for a used original seat and offer both when/if you sell in the sell future.
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Mr Fro » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:46 pm

I'll swap it for my CG125. :lol:

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Grumpy Old Git » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:58 pm

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Fozzie » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:46 pm

If that's the detuned 800 you have there, then my dad has one at his place in Wales.

It's quite a light bike as adventure bikes go, but a bit awkward I found. It's useful that I'm tall as I overcome the issues moving it around but I wouldn't like to leave my wife whose 5ft 7 to shift it. I also thought it was good for mooching around little quiet Welsh towns but open it up and it doesn't have much shove.

I think the MT-07 is a good choice as it's lighter, it feels a lot more fruity, and it was nice and low. It's very toy like and can be handled with ease. There's a reason they sell like hot cakes!

Other alternatives are the ER6F which felt quite small to me, but pulls better than the F700GS. It depends on your height and riding preferences.
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Topper » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:01 pm

High Heels?? :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Arwen » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:57 pm

fullscreenaging wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:33 pm
Could you look at getting the seat remoulded to make it lower? I’m sure there will be someone near you that you could go and talk to.

You could then look on eBay for a used original seat and offer both when/if you sell in the sell future.
The seat is already pretty thin on the padding... :crybaby:
Edit: Picture... you can see that there is only about 1"of padding at the front of the seat currently :-(
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@Fozzie Yea it is indeed the detuned 800. It's plenty powerful enough for me. I don't enjoy going quick, bimbling around the countryside is way more my style. Which is why I think I would consider going down to a lower powered bike.
It is light as far as adventure bikes go, however I have stupidly short legs... (27"ish inseem) which is why I'm struggling with it I think. If I am standing beside it, if I full lock the bars I can't really reach the grip that is opposite/further from me. Which means I can't really operate the clutch, or the front brake when moving it turning it while walking with it (depending which side I am on). So I move it as much as possible when riding. My slow control when on the bike is pretty good (excellent if I was to big myself up more :oops: ) which helps, however if I am on a cambered road I then come across the issue of stopping where I'd like to be, but being unable to reach the ground... and then I drop it :-/ I guess this is more about learning too judge the distant to the road better!

@Topper @JRH Nice image :wink: I can barely walk in heels like that never mind ride a bike though! :lol:
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Joeman » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:27 pm

Grumpy Old Git wrote:
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

Post by Joeman » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:30 pm

Wonder if you could fit smaller wheels??
Gearing and Speedo would need attention but might be an option especially for winter you could have winter tyres and summer tyres.
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Re: Swapping my F700GS for something lighter?

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