manxie49 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Just after some advise, I dropped my helmet this morning, hit the concrete floor in my garage with one hell of a clatter, it only appears to be scuffed, the shell isn't cracked or broken, should it be replaced or would it still be OK to use? I know manufacturers guidelines say "change it" but I often look at manufactures advice with a cynical eye, so thought I'd ask the question before breaking any bad news to the missus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I think the problem is without seeing what internal damage has been done there's no real way of telling... but it is your head so is it worth the risk. Also YAY SHOPPING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 If your head wasn't in it, it will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thanks Guys.....You're mirroring my thoughts, not looking forward to telling the wife I've thrown my £400 helmet on the floor, at least this way I can blame you for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fro Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thanks Guys.....You're mirroring my thoughts, not looking forward to telling the wife I've thrown my £400 helmet on the floor, at least this way I can blame you for the advice I did something similar at a meet with my brand spanking new lid. Bloody thing flopped off of the mirror on to the tarmac. I was right next to [mention]Joeman[/mention] at the time too. I haven't let it worry me overly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 When you can get a decent lid for £150 why would you even risk it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The inner liners that absorb the impact, the outer is to contain them and your head, it's unlikely to have caused any structural damage and I would have no issues with you wearing it, I on the other hand would buy a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 When you can get a decent lid for £150 why would you even risk it? Because there is no risk. There's a video I posted here somewhere that clears up the myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestrivens Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Fortnine did a video on this. I think it amounts to whether there was anything inside the helmet when it hits the ground as to whether or not the protection is damaged. But it is your head , would you risk it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Has anyone actually tried to destroy a crash helmet ? I have , many times. When I worked in a bike shop and we were bored on a rainy afternoon we would often try to smash old helmets that customers had asked us to throw away . I don't think we ever succeeded in cracking open a single shell . I seem to recall that the cheaper and nastier the helmet , the harder it was to damage. My favourite method was to swing them by the strap and whack them on the corner of a skip as hard as possible. So what you pay for is mainly the quality of the interior and the shock absorbing properties of the materials. In the light of this I personally wouldn't be too worried about dropping a helmet from a few feet. Incidentally, the only helmet I have ever seen smashed open was an Arai Doohan replica. The wearer survived a high speed track day collision with another bike, well at least their head did . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 I've decided to invest in another helmet, I'm 70% certain that this one is probably OK, but as pointed out, you only get one head is it worth the risk, I've seen enough accidents over the years to know that one of the reasons people get up and walk away is not just down to luck, but also due to the quality and integrity of the gear their wearing. Need to blag a bit of overtime now to help pay for it, could have been worse, could of dropped the wife's helmet, would have needed a new head then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Jump to 07:15..."> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I rather like this helmet although it might be a little impractical http://i.imgur.com/2b4O3B3.jpg or alternatively http://i.imgur.com/Hc2V5rU.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Has anyone actually tried to destroy a crash helmet ? I have , many times. When I worked in a bike shop and we were bored on a rainy afternoon we would often try to smash old helmets that customers had asked us to throw away . I don't think we ever succeeded in cracking open a single shell . I seem to recall that the cheaper and nastier the helmet , the harder it was to damage. My favourite method was to swing them by the strap and whack them on the corner of a skip as hard as possible. So what you pay for is mainly the quality of the interior and the shock absorbing properties of the materials. In the light of this I personally wouldn't be too worried about dropping a helmet from a few feet. Incidentally, the only helmet I have ever seen smashed open was an Arai Doohan replica. The wearer survived a high speed track day collision with another bike, well at least their head did . Ive seen a twice crashed helmet split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Jump to 07:15..."> Real food for thought that Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Jump to 07:15..."> Real food for thought that JoeIt's a whole banquet worth of food!! It's a manufacturer telling you in no uncertain terms that a helmet falling from your handlebars is fine to use. If there was any doubt that it wasn't, they wouldn't dare say that, especially in America (the land of litigation).You don't get more confirmation than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Has anyone actually tried to destroy a crash helmet ? Yes, I bought a new lid from J&S after I'd dropped my old one and I got to smash it with a hammer.Took a few swings to get it open.No relevance to this thread but it's a great stress reliever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Has anyone actually tried to destroy a crash helmet ? Yes, I bought a new lid from J&S after I'd dropped my old one and I got to smash it with a hammer.Took a few swings to get it open.No relevance to this thread but it's a great stress reliever Must have been a bloody big hammer ! I could never break one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Has anyone actually tried to destroy a crash helmet ? Yes, I bought a new lid from J&S after I'd dropped my old one and I got to smash it with a hammer.Took a few swings to get it open.No relevance to this thread but it's a great stress reliever Must have been a bloody big hammer ! I could never break one. Strong arm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Yes, I bought a new lid from J&S after I'd dropped my old one and I got to smash it with a hammer.Took a few swings to get it open.No relevance to this thread but it's a great stress reliever Must have been a bloody big hammer ! I could never break one. Strong arm? Crap helmet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onesea Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Must have been a bloody big hammer ! I could never break one. Strong arm? Crap helmet ? Having seen some small people swing some big hammers, with incredible accuracy and punch its practice. I knocked the pins in cause we all knew they could come out when required. They knocked them out, I just held the punch, which was not without risk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Having seen some small people swing some big hammers, with incredible accuracy and punch its practice. I knocked the pins in cause we all knew they could come out when required. They knocked them out, I just held the punch, which was not without risk...Sorry, you've completely lost me there. We were discussing the enormous effort required to deliberately destroy a crash helmet in contrast to the very small potential for damage that might result from dropping one from a height of a few feet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ordered a new helmet from the guys at SBS (1st rate shop by the way) i've gone for the Shoie GT air, looks like it will serve my purposes very nicely, will give an update when it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 i've gone for the Shoie GT air Good choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Ordered a new helmet from the guys at SBS (1st rate shop by the way) i've gone for the Shoie GT air, looks like it will serve my purposes very nicely, will give an update when it arrives. I've got one, great helmet.My only complaint is that the sunvisor doesn't come down far enough so riding along with the main visor open and the sun visor down, I get an annoying breeze in my eyes. My old helmet had a longer sun visor so I didn't have that problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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