AlexCrosbie Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Im currently rocking a yamaha mt10 which is a cracking bike for me but not really ideal for the mrs !How does a top box change the ride for a pillion ? in my head alot because you can sit back not have to hold on etc etcBut the lady is not convinced, anyone got any feedback of riding pillion before a top box and after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) The majority of 'higher quality'.. and sometimes less so. Top cases have the ability to fit a back rest... a padded cushion of sorts to make leaning back against the case more comfortable. I dont make a good pillion.. in fact I generally hate it. BUT.. with a top case to sit back against.. that extra feeling of security does tip the balance for me. I believe the MT10 has pillion grab handles at the side.. which is perfect. Edited May 21, 2018 by Gerontious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Lisa prefers without the top box and uses the love handles.(passed on by stu )She says the box might fall off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 The wife won't go anywhere without the top box on!Mine has the back rest that [mention]Gerontious[/mention] speaks ofThe wife never leans against it If it fell off she probably wouldn't even know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raesewell Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 My wife also wont go on the bike without the top box. It gives her something to lean back on and inspires confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 A back rest is all well and good but in an emergency stop situation not so good . In my opinion the safest way to carry a passenger is with them holding onto a solid rear grab rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 A back rest is all well and good but in an emergency stop situation not so good. Why "not so good"? in an emergency stop the pillion will be thrown forward.. so the fact there is a top case makes no difference. for me the fact its there is mainly about sharp acceleration for that extra feeling of security. no danger of falling.. or sliding backwards, and for those longer journeys its great to have something to lean back against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 We used to use a topbox and love handles. On the bandit this was fine, on the guzzi the top box significantly reduced the pillion seat room so my pillion would be sitting much closer to me so was generally less comfortable. Now we use a lomo dry bag with a few bits in strapped on a luggage rack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I don't like going pillion without a top box behind me... I rarely lean against it, but it acts as a sort of comfort that you wont slide off the back of the seat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 A back rest is all well and good but in an emergency stop situation not so good. Why "not so good"? in an emergency stop the pillion will be thrown forward.. so the fact there is a top case makes no difference. for me the fact its there is mainly about sharp acceleration for that extra feeling of security. no danger of falling.. or sliding backwards, and for those longer journeys its great to have something to lean back against.Exactly, being thrown forward is not so good . If the passenger is holding a grab rail rather than relaxing against a comfy back rest then this is less likely to happen. As for sharp acceleration, holding a grab rail with arms straight and elbows locked is not as uncomfortable as it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Don’t do it it will ruin the look of your bike ...Just leave the mrs at home . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Many years ago I had a Krauser Top box. One day when i got to work it wasn't on the bike any more. never did find it and it had my lunch in it. The GIVI units fit much more securely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggs Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Many years ago I had a Krauser Top box. One day when i got to work it wasn't on the bike any more. never did find it and it had my lunch in it. The GIVI units fit much more securely. Hoggfather is still very bitter about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Many years ago I had a Krauser Top box. One day when i got to work it wasn't on the bike any more. never did find it and it had my lunch in it. The GIVI units fit much more securely. Hoggfather is still very bitter about this Not surprised, he lost his lunch. I'd be gutted if I lost my lunch. I had left over Thai green curry for lunch today. Delicious, imagine losing that, terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raesewell Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 You'll lose it eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 A back rest is all well and good but in an emergency stop situation not so good. Why "not so good"? in an emergency stop the pillion will be thrown forward.. so the fact there is a top case makes no difference. for me the fact its there is mainly about sharp acceleration for that extra feeling of security. no danger of falling.. or sliding backwards, and for those longer journeys its great to have something to lean back against.Exactly, being thrown forward is not so good . If the passenger is holding a grab rail rather than relaxing against a comfy back rest then this is less likely to happen. The pillion can sit back and relax against the top case while holding the grab rails. so.. cake and eat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Why "not so good"? in an emergency stop the pillion will be thrown forward.. so the fact there is a top case makes no difference. for me the fact its there is mainly about sharp acceleration for that extra feeling of security. no danger of falling.. or sliding backwards, and for those longer journeys its great to have something to lean back against.Exactly, being thrown forward is not so good . If the passenger is holding a grab rail rather than relaxing against a comfy back rest then this is less likely to happen. The pillion can sit back and relax against the top case while holding the grab rails. so.. cake and eat it. The wife doesn't do either! Had a couple of hard braking moments without her squashing my nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Throttled Jnr will only ride pillion with a top box or bag full of camping gear in the rack. A pillion who feels secure is a better pillion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexCrosbie Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thanks Guys She has read through the replies and decided she wants one !Just got to find one i can take the frame on and off with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 100mph as a pillion over the Forth Road Bridge with no top box. The most unpleasant thing I have ever done. But I have yet to get my first rectal examination. That may be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilM Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 100mph as a pillion over the Forth Road Bridge with no top box. The most unpleasant thing I have ever done. But I have yet to get my first rectal examination. That may be worse. As someone whose gone pillion at speed and who also has a medical condition requiring the yearly camera up the arse sketch....I can confirm the latter is definitely worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Thanks Guys She has read through the replies and decided she wants one !Just got to find one i can take the frame on and off with ease GIVI do a system for the MT10. Topbox fixed rack, removable topbox.Side panniers on a removable frame. https://www.givi.co.uk/my-motorcycle#YAMAHA,MT-10_(16_%3E_17) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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