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Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Jazziesteve » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:28 pm

I have held a Full M/C Licence for 50 years and have ridden several hundreds of thousands of miles. Can I ride Pillion behind my 17 Yr old son who has already passed his CBT?

I think it's a bit like me teaching him to drive a car from the passenger seat.

Surely it can be considered similarly to me teaching with a car - as passenger - but from the Pillion seat?



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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Bungleaio » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:56 pm

Nope no pillion unless you have passed the A/A1/A2 tests.
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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by S-Westerly » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:01 pm

What he said. Definitely a no-no
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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Davidtav » Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:17 pm

Used to be legal though. So when did they change the rules?

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by fastbob » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:20 pm

Never mind the legality , have you ever tried riding pillion after 50 years of riding ? Absolutely terrifying ! Mind you, the last time I rode pillion the rider was Andy Carlisle .

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by skyrider » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:31 pm

i never did like riding pillion i like to be hold of the bars :shock:
i dont know where im going but i will when i get there

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by BIKERDAD » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:09 pm

fastbob wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:20 pm
Never mind the legality , have you ever tried riding pillion after 50 years of riding ? Absolutely terrifying ! Mind you, the last time I rode pillion the rider was Andy Carlisle .

NEVER A TRUER WORD I used to go on the back my bro in law as kid and teenager then after passing my test then few years later I went with him on his bike me on mine to drop his off for service I couldn't say to him your pillion so I said I'll pillion you drive .I couldn't wait to get off the bike never again . An never have ..

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by manxie49 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:57 am

Definite No-no, sure fire way to points and fine, plus riding pillion with an inexperienced rider could be pretty hazardous to health, put him under a lot of pressure and after 50yrs of riding leave you very much "out of sorts" not being able to control any potential problems.

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by raesewell » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:30 am

You would best tutor him from in front or behind with regular debriefing stops. Or get an intercom system.

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Kikesin » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:24 pm

raesewell wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:30 am
You would best tutor him from in front or behind with regular debriefing stops. Or get an intercom system.
This ^

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Arwen » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:56 pm

raesewell wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:30 am
You would best tutor him from in front or behind with regular debriefing stops. Or get an intercom system.
True... However has the OP done any sort of refresher courses in 50 years of riding? Can they pass mod 1 and 2 themselves? I am of course presuming that the OP is wanting to teach their son, and not just ride pillion for the shit and giggles.
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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Ian Frog » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:24 pm

Davidtav wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:17 pm
Used to be legal though. So when did they change the rules?
At what point do you think that was legal?
I passed my test in 1979 and as far as I know it was not legal when I had my 250 on L plates or my AP5o !
I started riding in the mid 70`s and received a conviction for carrying a passenger in 76 and the guy on the back had a full licence.
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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Davidtav » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:33 pm

Well this article implies that it was legal until 1990 for a learner to carry a pillion if the pillion has a full licence. Not sure if it’s right though. But I did think it was legal back in the 70s

https://www.lightningpass.com/changes-m ... earner-law

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Re: Full license holder as Pillion with a Learner Driver?

Post by Ian Frog » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:17 am

I have looked at that link and personally I think it is factually incorrect !
As I said before I was convicted of just that in the 70`s.
One thing they might have it confused with were there used to be certain rights of full licence car drivers when it came to small 2 wheelers.
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