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Re: WK650tr

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Re: WK650tr

Post by CrusaderPhil » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:06 pm

Throttled wrote:I think some people are arguing past each other. It is true Chinese bikes can be badly made, poorly copied designs. It is also true there are better ones and in the future even better ones again will appear. So both sides are correct.
I am not really bothered what people say, I am having great fun riding a reliable new bike all around the country for a small amount of capital outlay, it is Win Win.

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Re: WK650tr

Post by rennie » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:22 pm

I would suggest that people read the big red bit at the top of the page
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Re: WK650tr

Post by CrusaderPhil » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:25 pm

Fred says it all, I am 6ft as well, seating is fine for me but could be better, it is better on the G model which is not available in UK, just replaced the chain at 7500 miles, a bit soon for an O-Ring chain ( Chain is a Japanese RK, so nothing to do with being a Chinese bike ), seized links.

The headlights are absolute crap, the main beam shines to the left even when shinning right down the road, the dip beam does shine down the road but is set low, the result is that you cannot see the white line or the right hand side of the road on right hand bends, I have reversed the headlamps and re-adjusted the height, now the main now shines at the right height for a dip and slightly to the left, the main beam now shines right down the road lighting up both sides as it should, I have fitted spot lamps using a bracket made by Tigcraft.

I did get caught out with the battery, if the charge drops, it will fail to engage the centrifugal clutch to turn the engine over but will sound as if it is turning it, I did not realize the Display and Computer had power to them all the time and would run down the battery, I now keep a trickle charger plugged in.

I do not think the German Continental tyres are as good as the Chinese ones fitted to the original bikes.

The power take off is very handy but be warned, ensure a device that is plugged in has a fuse, the take off is on the lighting circuit, if like I did you blow the fuse in the fuse box, you will have no lights, no fun when you are riding over the Derbyshire moors on a freezing cold night.

The fairing Aerodynamics are second to none, it keeps the wind and rain off your hands, legs and body, the windscreen could do with being a little longer, it is 60cm, could do with being 70cm ( Available though after market ), it would benefit from an X-creen, if you did not want to buy a 70cm screen.

**I think rear crash bars are a must, I have dropped mine and the boxes got scratched, not expensive at £49.99 + Carriage + VAT but I am still waiting for them to come from China, the Red finish of the bike is a Candy finish, almost impossible to match, the black and the white models are much easier to paint match.

The left hand handle bar grip and switch gear are to far away from the end of the bar, if you want to fit Oxford heated grips you need to move the switch gear a bit closer to the end of the bar this means drilling a new hole for the positioning pin.

I believe that some Pan European parts will fit such as 1" Ball mount bar, Bar risers, that move bars back and higher, and peg lowering kits, available from Motorcycle larry

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Re: WK650tr

Post by Samco11 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:20 pm

We as a motorcycle courier company tried these bikes and all failed miserably. None of the WK's would take the mileage and hard riding we put them through. What was disappointing was having given in all fairness, a brand, a chance. We at least expected something back in return. Sadly if this is what's coming out China as good as they may seem, I'm not convinced these manufacturers are anywhere near producing a decent long lasting product. What infuriates me is when you hear the comments of "you dont give them a chance, and what do you expect for the money"??
Well we always give a new brand a chance, and for the price you'd expect some kind of reliability! but we still never slagged any of them off. We thought "Hey let's see what these can do"!! Out of the three we owned not one had proved to be reliable. We gave them as many chances as we possibly could and still our riders experienced issues from electrics, to fragile plastics, and mechanical gremlins. I actually quite like riding them but the whole point here was to test a products stamina. Our old fleet of Honda Deavilles clocked up phenominal mileages, and mostly trouble free, whereas the WK's all gave issues before even hitting 10k miles. Some of us remember when Skoda's Octavia were first used as taxis, and everyone laughed? No ones laughing now are they. Sadly it took a VW takeover to make the whole package work. So perhaps some professional help from a western manufacturer may be the key? For now we've returned to Honda and a Kawasaki. WK's attempt is a good starter and yes a private buyer for daily usage may well be rewarded with some kind of reliability? As a business we can't afford to throw money away and these type of bikes still need to come a long way before we'd consider giving them a chance again. If they can do it we'll be in the queue to buy again.

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Re: WK650tr

Post by CrusaderPhil » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:43 pm

Samco11 wrote:We as a motorcycle courier company tried these bikes and all failed miserably. None of the WK's would take the mileage and hard riding we put them through. What was disappointing was having given in all fairness, a brand, a chance. We at least expected something back in return. Sadly if this is what's coming out China as good as they may seem, I'm not convinced these manufacturers are anywhere near producing a decent long lasting product. What infuriates me is when you hear the comments of "you dont give them a chance, and what do you expect for the money"??
Well we always give a new brand a chance, and for the price you'd expect some kind of reliability! but we still never slagged any of them off. We thought "Hey let's see what these can do"!! Out of the three we owned not one had proved to be reliable. We gave them as many chances as we possibly could and still our riders experienced issues from electrics, to fragile plastics, and mechanical gremlins. I actually quite like riding them but the whole point here was to test a products stamina. Our old fleet of Honda Deavilles clocked up phenominal mileages, and mostly trouble free, whereas the WK's all gave issues before even hitting 10k miles. Some of us remember when Skoda's Octavia were first used as taxis, and everyone laughed? No ones laughing now are they. Sadly it took a VW takeover to make the whole package work. So perhaps some professional help from a western manufacturer may be the key? For now we've returned to Honda and a Kawasaki. WK's attempt is a good starter and yes a private buyer for daily usage may well be rewarded with some kind of reliability? As a business we can't afford to throw money away and these type of bikes still need to come a long way before we'd consider giving them a chance again. If they can do it we'll be in the queue to buy again.
Which models though, WK brand a number of different bikes from a number of Manufactures with their WK brand, the WK650TR is a CFMOTO CF650TK re-branded, my 650TR has done 8000 since last April in all weathers and apart from the RK chain, mechanically it has been fine, I have been on quite a few long ride outs and never worried about it breaking down.

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Re: WK650tr

Post by Fred » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:17 pm

I don't do, or expect to do big mileage on mine, it was not bought with that intention in mind.
If I was a business user I would have looked for a different make of bike more then likely.
As for for fragile plastics, I have no complaint there, dropped mine off the paddock stand, resulting in a broken indicator and pod and a badly scratched front Mud guard, but all the other fairing panel took the weight of the bike being laid on its side without so much as a broken lug.
Apart from worn head stock bearings (lack of grease when bike being made) needing replacing its been fine.
Had a few niggles, neutral and main beam light coming on in wet weather, but seems to have stopped doing it now.
Still happy with mine...... :thumb:

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Re: WK650tr

Post by CrusaderPhil » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:43 pm

Fred wrote:I don't do, or expect to do big mileage on mine, it was not bought with that intention in mind.
If I was a business user I would have looked for a different make of bike more then likely.
As for for fragile plastics, I have no complaint there, dropped mine off the paddock stand, resulting in a broken indicator and pod and a badly scratched front Mud guard, but all the other fairing panel took the weight of the bike being laid on its side without so much as a broken lug.
Apart from worn head stock bearings (lack of grease when bike being made) needing replacing its been fine.
Had a few niggles, neutral and main beam light coming on in wet weather, but seems to have stopped doing it now.
Still happy with mine...... :thumb:
Hi Fred, Mine went down like a ton of Bricks and I only got scratches on the Panniers, Mirror cover and the Black bit that sticks out smashed to bits, which I temporarily welded until I could get another which cost £11:00 + VAT, still waiting new Pannier, Mirror cover cost £19:00 + VAT ready painted.

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Re: WK650tr

Post by Fred » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:50 pm

I was expecting (dreading) more damage on mine at the time,
It went over very quickly.
I could have got away with replacing just the indicator & pod................but the deep scratch (the mud guard caught the edge of a low wall) drove me daft......so it had to be replaced.........and at £30 it seemed silly not too :thumb:

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Re: WK650tr

Post by CrusaderPhil » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:03 pm

Fred wrote:I was expecting (dreading) more damage on mine at the time,
It went over very quickly.
I could have got away with replacing just the indicator & pod................but the deep scratch (the mud guard caught the edge of a low wall) drove me daft......so it had to be replaced.........and at £30 it seemed silly not too :thumb:
When did that happen, before or after we last met, it looked OK when we met.

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Re: WK650tr

Post by Fred » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:08 pm

Before the Raven meet up.
I bought a bike Jack after that incident.......going nowhere near that paddock stand.......damn thing

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Re: WK650tr

Post by Tigcraft » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:47 pm

Samco11 wrote:We as a motorcycle courier company tried these bikes and all failed miserably. None of the WK's would take the mileage and hard riding we put them through. What was disappointing was having given in all fairness, a brand, a chance. We at least expected something back in return. Sadly if this is what's coming out China as good as they may seem, I'm not convinced these manufacturers are anywhere near producing a decent long lasting product. What infuriates me is when you hear the comments of "you dont give them a chance, and what do you expect for the money"??
Well we always give a new brand a chance, and for the price you'd expect some kind of reliability! but we still never slagged any of them off. We thought "Hey let's see what these can do"!! Out of the three we owned not one had proved to be reliable. We gave them as many chances as we possibly could and still our riders experienced issues from electrics, to fragile plastics, and mechanical gremlins. I actually quite like riding them but the whole point here was to test a products stamina. Our old fleet of Honda Deavilles clocked up phenominal mileages, and mostly trouble free, whereas the WK's all gave issues before even hitting 10k miles. Some of us remember when Skoda's Octavia were first used as taxis, and everyone laughed? No ones laughing now are they. Sadly it took a VW takeover to make the whole package work. So perhaps some professional help from a western manufacturer may be the key? For now we've returned to Honda and a Kawasaki. WK's attempt is a good starter and yes a private buyer for daily usage may well be rewarded with some kind of reliability? As a business we can't afford to throw money away and these type of bikes still need to come a long way before we'd consider giving them a chance again. If they can do it we'll be in the queue to buy again.
Interesting! I'm curious to what went wrong on your fleet? They do have niggles like any make have and I've modified a few things on mine, but I've never had any problems that stopped a ride or worried me and mines done a good lump of mainland Europe ridden very hard.

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