Newbie needing advice

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Newbie needing advice

#1 Post by johnny » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:30 pm

Hi,

I am new to the forum and joined hoping to get some advice on what sort of 125cc bike would make a good restoration project and learner bike. I have been restoring / building peddle bikes for years and have rebuilt a mini and a Triumph spitfire. I am however entirely new to working on motorbikes.

Any advice on where to start looking and what to look for would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
J

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#2 Post by fastbob » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:11 pm

johnny wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:30 pm
Hi,

I am new to the forum and joined hoping to get some advice on what sort of 125cc bike would make a good restoration project and learner bike. I have been restoring / building peddle bikes for years and have rebuilt a mini and a Triumph spitfire. I am however entirely new to working on motorbikes.

Any advice on where to start looking and what to look for would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
J
Welcome to the forum . Get a Honda CG 125 , that's my advice . And when you do, I'd be delighted to assist with every detail of the restoration . That's if there are any left that haven't been hacked about to make Brat , Cafe , Scrambler abominations . Actually there are some good ones out there but a lot of nasty ones too .

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#3 Post by MikeHorton » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:53 am

Yes a Cg125 as said is ideal or maybe a yam rxs100 if you can find one they were fast for a 100!

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#4 Post by fastbob » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:29 pm

MikeHorton wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:53 am
Yes a Cg125 as said is ideal or maybe a yam rxs100 if you can find one they were fast for a 100!
Yep , anything without a camchain will do it .👍

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#5 Post by johnny » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm

Thanks for the suggestions and offer of support, i really appreciate both! Will start looking for a Honda CG 125 and or Yamaha Rxs 100. Any specific age of bike best?

Will be back in touch when I am successful.

Thanks!

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#6 Post by skyrider » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:55 pm

listen to what fastbob has to say and you wont go far wrong :thumb:
i dont know where im going but i will when i get there

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#7 Post by fastbob » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:14 pm

johnny wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:03 pm
Thanks for the suggestions and offer of support, i really appreciate both! Will start looking for a Honda CG 125 and or Yamaha Rxs 100. Any specific age of bike best?

Will be back in touch when I am successful.

Thanks!
If you're getting a CG 125 it doesn't really matter . The basic design dates from around 1976 and Honda have made them in Japan, Brazil, Turkey and back to Japan and possibly India and Pakistan I wouldn't be surprised . They are still being made today I believe and of course there are a billion Chinese copies that use the same engine . This is very much to your advantage because eBay and Amazon are flooded with ridiculously cheap replica parts . All models are good but an electronic ignition version might be less hassle . I wouldn't bother with an electric start version though , it's just one more thing to go wrong .

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#8 Post by johnny » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:23 pm

Hi,

I like the look of the 1970 - 1980's Honda. So I will hopefully find one in the next few weeks that suits.

Thanks again!

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#9 Post by fastbob » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:28 pm

Well I've just looked on Gumtree and here's your problem . There are 24 CG125s and all of them are fairly nice bikes that are ready to ride . The average price is around £1000 and apart from a wash and brush up they don't really need anything doing to them . Back when I did up a spate of CG,s I was paying as little as £20 for shed and garden finds but I had the advantage of working in a bike shop with a customer notice board.

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#10 Post by johnny » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:19 am

Ebay has half a dozen all needing work that seem to be going for about £300 - £500. Will keep an eye and see what i can get.

Thanks

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#11 Post by fastbob » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:42 am

johnny wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:19 am
Ebay has half a dozen all needing work that seem to be going for about £300 - £500. Will keep an eye and see what i can get.

Thanks
I didn't look on eBay . I'll have a look now.

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#12 Post by johnny » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:23 pm

Hi,

Does it make any difference to parts availability or upgrading if a CG125 Honda is 6v?

Thanks

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#13 Post by fastbob » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:55 am

johnny wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:23 pm
Hi,

Does it make any difference to parts availability or upgrading if a CG125 Honda is 6v?

Thanks
I would probably avoid 6v CGs to be honest . Unless it's a rare gem and has some value to collectors . What year is it ?

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#14 Post by johnny » Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:43 pm

Hi,

finding the search for a Honda cg125 within shouting distance of Edinburgh a little frustrating. i can source a Kawasaki KH125 locally. Would this be appropriate for a starter project in your opinion?

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Re: Newbie needing advice

#15 Post by fastbob » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:49 am

It would up to a point but as far as the engine is concerned you are only going to learn about two strokes . Going forward , most bikes are 4 strokes these days so if you choose to move on you will still have to learn about valves , tappets , timing chains etc. The CG is a good compromise because it's a four stroke with push rods instead of a cam chain . If the price is right go for it . I obtained a two stroke recently that started first touch ( After much fettling ) having stood outside in a blackberry bush for ten years . See " Aprilia Garden Find " in this section.