Buster s dad Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Purchased a new zzr1400 performance to replace my old 14 plate model.The bike is fine apart from a low down flat spot around 3000 rpm making it a bit of a dog.Asked the dealer who reckoned it was down to emissions tuning for Euro 6 nothing Kawasaki can or will do about it.Seems a shame to have to ride it like a supersport when the best thing about these is or was massive torque.Anyone have any ideas or know a decent tuner in the northwest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynax Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Try them again, motorcycle emissions only go to 5 and that will not be enforced until 2020, the current standard is Euro 4,scroll down to motorcycles on this link, https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/euro-emissions-standards/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Ball 1971 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I hate that, you paid good money for a new bike. Take it back as it has an issue and they just say "Sorry it's a characteristic of the bike" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Demand a refund. They will soon change their tune.They admit there is a problem but instead of fixing it are making excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Yep , I agree with the last two comments . There's no way a motorcycle in this performance class and price bracket should have a flat spot . The garage's excuse sounds like pure bullshit . Tell them you want another one that works properly . Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I'd park it in the managers office and tell him it's his problem now and you want your money back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copycat73 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickly Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I use Muc - off to remove flies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I regret to say that I don't understand a word of that statement . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I will have some of what he is having Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snod Blatter Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Did you not go for a test ride before parting with stacks of dosh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I think he means the secondary butterflies in the inlet tract. I read somewhere that removing them improves the midrange but screws the environmental compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I think he means the secondary butterflies in the inlet tract. I read somewhere that removing them improves the midrange but screws the environmental compliance. Ah ha , thanks for that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copycat73 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I think he means the secondary butterflies in the inlet tract. I read somewhere that removing them improves the midrange but screws the environmental compliance. nope .. the secondary flies are there to stop peeps killing themselves in the lower revs and gears from the set off ..that is rear wheel spin and puttin the bike down the road ... The ECU flash sorts out the fueling .. the closed loop included .. below 3000 - 4000 revs .. there are no gains anywhere else .. but the bike becomes a lot more responsive to the throttle openings .. .. however if you want a smooth operation then you must be smooth with the throttle operation .. frankly your better off with a dedicated forum as it's clear that nobody here has any experience of this issue ....lots and lots about it here and where to go to have it sorted http://www.zx14r.co.uk/phpBB3/PS.. doing what i said resolved the exact same issue with my 2008 .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRH Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 they are all like that ..its the secondary flies ... you need an ECU flash and some remove said flies .. I think he means the secondary butterflies in the inlet tract. I read somewhere that removing them improves the midrange but screws the environmental compliance. nope .. the secondary flies are there to stop peeps killing themselves in the lower revs and gears from the set off ..that is rear wheel spin and puttin the bike down the road ... The ECU flash sorts out the fueling .. the closed loop included .. below 3000 - 4000 revs .. there are no gains anywhere else .. but the bike becomes a lot more responsive to the throttle openings .. .. however if you want a smooth operation then you must be smooth with the throttle operation .. frankly your better off with a dedicated forum as it's clear that nobody here has any experience of this issue ....lots and lots about it here and where to go to have it sorted http://www.zx14r.co.uk/phpBB3/PS.. doing what i said resolved the exact same issue with my 2008 .. https://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-14-forum/7500-flies-out-picture-guide.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Did you not go for a test ride before parting with stacks of dosh? The place I brought my new ninja from wouldn't let me test ride it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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