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Corrosion inhibitors

Post by JRH » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:24 pm

Good item in January’s ride mag.
Long term test on corrosion inhibitors.
WD40 comes 4th out of 5 beating Scottoil FS365.
Top is XCP and AFC50 close second.
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by 2wheelLover51 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:28 pm

Thanks for posting. It's always handy to have a factual report on what you're buying. I've used WD40 and ACF50 on various bikes for years, but the problem with most of them is that they wash off in heavy rain, or if you're giving your bike a post salty ride wash! I still use ACF50 or normal engine oil in lots of places, but for the high corrosion areas I use Waxoyl.
Once on it stays put! It doesn't look pretty because it acts as a dirt magnet but it does what it says on the tin!

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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by JRH » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:25 pm

The XCP is a thick treatment and says on through washes. So does ACF .
The Scottoil is water based so it washes off easily.
I used waxoyl treatment on my early cars. They still rusted though. :roll:
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:02 pm

The trick with Waxoyl is to mix it 50/50 with new cheap 20W/50 engine oil and apply it warmed up. Waxoyl is a bit too thick so applied on its own it sits on top of metal. Moisture inevitably gets in and sits between the Waxoyl and the metal so it rusts. Mixed with engine oil it becomes a flowing mixture which penetrates into the surface, soaks into any rust pockets and keeps oxygen out. That's the key thing, steel won't rust without oxygen. Adding oil helps seal the oxygen out.
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Invisible_Man » Sun Dec 01, 2019 4:13 pm

Hi,
Managing an aircraft stores i get Dinitrol AV25 come up SLE....And rather than dispose of it i take the odd can home. Paints on and dries like wax. When i stopped riding 5 years ago i painted most of the metal parts with the stuff and left the bike in the garden uncovered. Fast forward to October 2019 i stripped it all off with paraffin and there was barely any rust. Once again all the exposed metal parts are painted in it ready for the winter commute.

Prior to getting my free stuff i used to use ACF.....Another great product just bloody expensive!

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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Older biker » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:50 pm

JRH wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:25 pm
The XCP is a thick treatment and says on through washes. So does ACF .
The Scottoil is water based so it washes off easily.
I used waxoyl treatment on my early cars. They still rusted though. :roll:
I remember when they used to under seal cars.
Personally I think that sealed in the rust.
Thankfully cars are a whole lot better nowadays.
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Beans » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:14 pm

If you had to fanny about with cars the way you still have to with a bike, such as anti corrosion coating just to use it in winter without it rusting, the bloody roads would be empty.
Dunno why we accept it
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Richzx6r » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:56 pm

Beans wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:14 pm
If you had to fanny about with cars the way you still have to with a bike, such as anti corrosion coating just to use it in winter without it rusting, the bloody roads would be empty.
Dunno why we accept it
Probably because its easier to accept it than fight it
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:14 pm

And also because so many bikes spend the winter asleep in a garage. It just isn't the same issue for many bikers.
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Beans » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:40 pm

I feel the manufacturers could do so much better. They are currently between 10and 50 years behind where cars have got to.
People want to drive/ride. Not fuss about keeping a delicate machine operational. Sure, some enjoy spending time in the garage getting oily hands. But I get the feeling that more people just want to add petrol and go.
This isn't reflected in the motorcycle business and their offerings. It's like the early 60s with the odd electronic aid.

All round lack of progress from Messrs Honda and others (tft screens - how long have they been fairly standard in cars? Performance and fuel economy?? safety aids, comfort such as cruise control?) but this topic is about anti corrosion formulas. As I say if you were dicking about with your car these days getting it winter ready what would you be driving?
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Beans » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:44 pm

Fender extenders, huggers, rad guards, heated grips, these are not additional aftermarket extras to make that bike yours, it's where the manufacturers delivered an unfinished product
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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by MikeHorton » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:50 pm

I would imagine a big factor with a bike it that everything is relatively exposed in terms of engine and all the workings. In a car you get a nice can to surround it in and protect it. My car is 10yrs old now and look under the bonnet and many parts have started to corrode but can't be seen to the passer-by.
I think it's important to apply some sort of protection if you want to hang onto your bike for a while. Acf works for me and is fairly easy to apply and more cost effective when bought in a bigger container.

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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by sparkpaintersuk » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:12 pm

Thanks for the otherwise very informed post.

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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by S-Westerly » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:21 pm

Because I am an idle swine I use All Year Biker to give my bike an annual protective coating of some magic substance - either ACF-50 or XCP and it seems to work for me. No rust or corrosion and dirt including dead insects just wipes off. Suits me and the bike.
Miles and miles of empty roads and I can't do f**k all!!

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Re: Corrosion inhibitors

Post by Smithers » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:57 pm

A lot of my riding tails off in Jan and Feb, but still use ACF50 to keep the salt out, it does a really good job. It seems to have a capillary type of action that works its way into the tightest of places you wouldn't expect it to touch. Expensive but well worth the money imho.
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