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Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by onesea » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:41 pm

I know contentious subject some have had them and love them some remove them and think they a spawn of devil...
For me I have had a Scott oiler and liked it, not certain I would pay £100 for one. It was not perfect and didn't make maintenance free chain. Although it reduced my oiling and cleaning.

How ever there are others what would you recommend?

Presently I have my eye on a LoobMan at just under £20 and yes they do recommend using engine oil...
http://www.loobman.co.uk

Any one any experience? Loobman or others.

https://bikerrated.com/gear/maintenance ... in-oilers/
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by Gerontious » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:08 pm

For an alternative to these oilers that are a constant drip drip drip, either while the engine is running or when the bike is moving. Have a squint at this page.

https://www.cobrra.sk/en/nemo-2-device- ... uad-chains

You can then search for GIDIBI and enjoy a moral dilemma. £90 for the Slovak made Cobrra. Or £23 for the exact same thing made in China by GIDIBI.

I like the idea of these things as they give a measured dose of gear oil.. Usually over about 3 minutes, as and when the rider decides. Which has certain advantages over the others assuming you don't have memory problems and can remember to actually use it.

Obviously this will be useless for some people as there isn't an app to do the hard work for you. You have to actually do something with your fingers. Turn a lid on the reservoir. Not difficult.. But highly technical. For the smart phone afflicted.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by onesea » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:54 am

Oh my I have entered the dangerous world of innovation:
This one seems to work from suspension? Not very clear on instructions...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/222758409650?c ... 3wEALw_wcB

Then there is this chain cleaner/ lubricator, I am tempted just cause you can apply lube without over spray....

https://m.louis-moto.co.uk/artikel/kett ... r=10003114

Would love some feedback from people who have tried any of these.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by Richzx6r » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:38 am

That Louis moto one came off the chain clean....that kinda put me off as I dont feel it was a good representation of the cleaning ability side of it, I'm thinking of trying to make a DIY oiler it shouldn't be too difficult to make something gravity fed but with a metering valve so the system can be shut off to limit leakage when the bike is stood
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by TimR » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:11 am

Old loobman was brilliant and easy to fit ..
Squeezy bottle

New loobman is crap fiddly and hard to mount ( solid plastic reservoir)
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by Snod Blatter » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:51 pm

TimR wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:11 am
Old loobman was brilliant and easy to fit ..
Squeezy bottle

New loobman is crap fiddly and hard to mount ( solid plastic reservoir)
This, sadly, is 100% accurate. I have an old squeezy bottle type on the CBX and love it, yes it's total loss once you've squeezed but you usually know how far you're going at a time and can decide whether or not to squeeze. I've also put a new push-button type on the Z250SL and TRX, I find the new way to mount the delivery head to the swingarm is less secure (it slides about a bit) and I've had the head fall to bits on both bikes while the one on the 250 (which gets a lot more use) has semi-failed in that the spring appears to have broken for the button, so if I don't fully pull the button back up again it will happily dump the whole reservoir over the chain/wheel/tyre/floor. I'm not as impressed as I hoped to be.

If you do get a Loobman (and for the price I'd still go for one!) I heartily recommend you put the optional zip ties around the pointy bits of the head and use two ties to secure the head to the mount. This makes them much more resilient.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by onesea » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:49 pm

Gerontious wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:08 pm
You can then search for GIDIBI and enjoy a moral dilemma. £90 for the Slovak made Cobrra. Or £23 for the exact same thing made in China by GIDIBI.
Well no moral dilemma for me, £24 from china, as the only problem I had with my Scott oilier was the nozzle blocking occasionally, a pressurised system seemed the way to go...
Chain with Scotoiler lasted 20k+ without less than 10k I am pro chain oilliers, will be interesting to see how I get on with this one...

Having used one before I am aware they are not a complete solution, I still had to oil and clean the chain occasionally. Just if using bike daily it reduced the requirement considerably.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:11 pm

That Louis Moto one looks a right faff. I'd have got my brush out and done both bikes in the it takes to put that thing together.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by MikeHorton » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:13 pm

onesea wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:49 pm
Gerontious wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:08 pm
You can then search for GIDIBI and enjoy a moral dilemma. £90 for the Slovak made Cobrra. Or £23 for the exact same thing made in China by GIDIBI.
Well no moral dilemma for me, £24 from china, as the only problem I had with my Scott oilier was the nozzle blocking occasionally, a pressurised system seemed the way to go...
Chain with Scotoiler lasted 20k+ without less than 10k I am pro chain oilliers, will be interesting to see how I get on with this one...

Having used one before I am aware they are not a complete solution, I still had to oil and clean the chain occasionally. Just if using bike daily it reduced the requirement considerably.
I'm also ordering one of these I was contemplating a cobrra already and this will save a few pennies!

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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by MikeHorton » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:42 pm

onesea wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:49 pm
Gerontious wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:08 pm
You can then search for GIDIBI and enjoy a moral dilemma. £90 for the Slovak made Cobrra. Or £23 for the exact same thing made in China by GIDIBI.
Well no moral dilemma for me, £24 from china, as the only problem I had with my Scott oilier was the nozzle blocking occasionally, a pressurised system seemed the way to go...
Chain with Scotoiler lasted 20k+ without less than 10k I am pro chain oilliers, will be interesting to see how I get on with this one...

Having used one before I am aware they are not a complete solution, I still had to oil and clean the chain occasionally. Just if using bike daily it reduced the requirement considerably.
You may find hem a little cheaper on Ali express too around 18 quid

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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by DJP » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:44 pm

These days I just brush chainsaw oil onto the chain. Best lube I've come across.

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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by S-Westerly » Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:28 am

I've got the real Cobra kit and it works quite well. Have real issues with Chinese stuff at work and consequently avoid it as much as possible when it's my own money. Don't care if it's cheaper.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by onesea » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:33 pm

Well its here and fitted, which took 30-40 minutes.

Only annoying thing is I had no suitable mounting point, luckily I had old mirror stem mounting point so problem solved.
Will see how it works and post up in time if there are problems or its exceptionally good.
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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by elwon20 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:55 pm

My chain got mangled last winter because I rode the bike all winter and didn't keep up with maint (weekly oil/lubing just wasn't enough).

So at the end of last winter, along with my new fancy x-ring 525 chain and -1+2 gearing swap, I bought a Scottoiler Xsystem which automatically drips oil on the chain every x seconds (setting dependant) whenever it detects that the bike is moving.

I keep it on a high setting to help wash grime off and I think I've felt the need to clean/lube my chain once in maybe 8k miles.

Up until a few weeks ago, that is, when would have highly recommended it, but suddenly it appears to just not be dripping quite as much lube as it used to.

It doesn't appear to be blocked, it still drips, just not as much as it did previously (even during Nov/Dec). My chain got rusty on the highest setting over Feb, and now the weather is warming up I would expect the oil to be thinning and for me to be turning it down to prevent too much spray. But I'm looking to turn it up and it doesn't go any higher.

Next, chance I get, I'll follow the hose and make sure there are no kinks/blockages anywhere. If I find none I'll contact support for a recall.

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Re: Alternative - Chain Oilers

Post by Richzx6r » Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:03 pm

Must admit I looked at the chain on the ninja and its manky with rust, I shall be giving the bike some much needed TLC tomorrow daytime
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