Favourite Japanese brand

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Honda
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38%
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25%
Suzuki
5
16%
Yamha
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22%
 
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by QBoiii » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:31 am

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am

But you tell the difference between a Japanese built car and a French one instantly.
More reverse gears than forward ones I presume, just like their tanks? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Six30 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:23 am

QBoiii wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:31 am
Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am

But you tell the difference between a Japanese built car and a French one instantly.
More reverse gears than forward ones I presume, just like their tanks? :lol: :lol: :lol:

why do French tanks have rear view mirrors ?

so they can see the battle.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Mr Fro » Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:59 pm

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am
The seed of the philosophy actually began with Sony. Other Japanese manufacturers, Toyota included, picked it up and made it work.
Toyoda introduced the first aspects of lean in the 30s. I thought Sony was post war...

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Gerontious » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:37 pm

Mr Fro wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:59 pm
Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am
The seed of the philosophy actually began with Sony. Other Japanese manufacturers, Toyota included, picked it up and made it work.
Toyoda introduced the first aspects of lean in the 30s. I thought Sony was post war...
1958. if you want to be pedantic.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:47 pm

I think we're probably talking about slightly different things. Toyota focused on their production protocols, Sony were taking a wider perspective on how Japanese products were seen in a global perspective. Their objective was to transform the global image of Japanese products. That's the aspect peculiar to them.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Mr Fro » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:57 pm

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:47 pm
I think we're probably talking about slightly different things. Toyota focused on their production protocols, Sony were taking a wider perspective on how Japanese products were seen in a global perspective. Their objective was to transform the global image of Japanese products. That's the aspect peculiar to them.
Yeah, different strands of the same thread.

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by boboneleg » Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:37 pm

I've probably had about the same number of Honda and Suzuki over the years, not so many Yamahas and only one Kawasaki. In recent years I've had more european bikes than Japanese but currently have one each of Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by The Hitcher » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:36 pm

Honda for bikes and Toyota for cars.

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by The Hitcher » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:43 pm

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:34 am
Mr Fro wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:03 am
Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:12 am
Back in the 50's everyone regarded Japanese stuff in much the same way as they view Chinese stuff today.

Japanese = cheap and shoddy.

An aspiring electronics company set themselves the target of making the world see Japanese made products as the world leader. That was their single objective.

So for sheer balls without whom the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers would have got nowhere I'd give Sony a mention.
You're talking about Toyoda I presume.

It was a bit more than wanting to "be the best", they created a whole manufacturing quality methodology around it -TPS. Something Chinese manufacturing haven't really bothered with much yet.

Fun fact: in the 90s when they were floundering, Toyota gave Porche full access their facilities and knowledge because they didn't consider Porsche any sort of rival in terms of quality or manufacturing.

Porsche pinched TPS methods (lean, 6 sigma etc.) and German Technik was born.
The seed of the philosophy actually began with Sony. Other Japanese manufacturers, Toyota included, picked it up and made it work. I have had two Toyotas and they were brilliant cars. Both were versions of the Yaris made in Japan and France. Same part, same engines, same everything. But you tell the difference between a Japanese built car and a French one instantly.
The Yaris is a really well built, reliable car.
I’ve only owned one Toyota, a Landcruiser, which is perhaps their toughest,most over engineered car and I honestly wish I’d never sold it, never went wrong, far more dependable and just as capable as other more fancy brands in that sector.

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by Richzx6r » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:14 pm

The Hitcher wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:36 pm
Honda for bikes and Toyota for cars.
Nah definitely jaaggg for cars and so far Kawasaki for bikes
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by The Hitcher » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:36 pm

Richzx6r wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:14 pm
The Hitcher wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:36 pm
Honda for bikes and Toyota for cars.
Nah definitely jaaggg for cars and so far Kawasaki for bikes
Jaaaaggs aren't Japanese though :P, I'm not a huge fan of them to be honest, had too much bad experience with things from JLR, the XF and XK look nice though.

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by FallingDown » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:47 pm

Had 3 Hondas and a Yamaha. Loved the Yam and it always made me turn around for another look as I walked away but the Africa Twin (DCT) was something special. A truly do everything bike and I've never had as much fun as I've had on the CRF Rally. The thing self heals like Wolverine. No matter how hard I drop it, how deep the water is, how many orange flashing lights come on for a while, they all go off by themselves before the next ride.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by fastbob » Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:53 pm

FallingDown wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:47 pm
Had 3 Hondas and a Yamaha. Loved the Yam and it always made me turn around for another look as I walked away but the Africa Twin (DCT) was something special. A truly do everything bike and I've never had as much fun as I've had on the CRF Rally. The thing self heals like Wolverine. No matter how hard I drop it, how deep the water is, how many orange flashing lights come on for a while, they all go off by themselves before the next ride.
What are your impressions of the Honda Fury ? That is a Fury isn't it ? I saw one of these in Applecross which means someone rode it up the Bealach na Ba . Quite an achievement with a wheelbase like that .

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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by JRH » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:00 pm

fastbob wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:53 pm
FallingDown wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:47 pm
Had 3 Hondas and a Yamaha. Loved the Yam and it always made me turn around for another look as I walked away but the Africa Twin (DCT) was something special. A truly do everything bike and I've never had as much fun as I've had on the CRF Rally. The thing self heals like Wolverine. No matter how hard I drop it, how deep the water is, how many orange flashing lights come on for a while, they all go off by themselves before the next ride.
What are your impressions of the Honda Fury ? That is a Fury isn't it ? I saw one of these in Applecross which means someone rode it up the Bealach na Ba . Quite an achievement with a wheelbase like that .
Could have come from the northern route.
Took the car to Applecross via Bealach na Ba. that was bad enough, don’t think I would like to tackle it on a bike with that wheelbase.
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Re: Favourite Japanese brand

Post by fastbob » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:03 pm

Suzuki falling behind I see . I never really set out to be a Suzuki owner , it's just the way it went . My first four cylinder bike was a GS 550 and it just followed on from there . GS 850 , GSX 1100ET , GSXR 1100 L , GSXR 1100 WP . No major mechnical issues .
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