James in Brum Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Hi gangI want to service my tokico brake callipers in a few weeks just to learn how really.What do I need, eBay has lots including bolts, not including bolts, with Bleed things and not ranging from just the seals for £8.50 to seal and bolts and stuff for£50.What do I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Depends on how thorough your planning on going most of the time just a seal change makes the difference but with tokicos you really do need to keep on top of the maintenance to keep them working properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Thanks Rich, I have no idea how thorough I want to be really. I don’t know enough to decide. I want to take them apart and clean them, I want to change the pads if needed but beyond that not a clue. They work at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I take it they are the 6 pot tokicos? If so I'd recommend minimum of a full seal kit and don't forget to clean out the crud from the grooves before you put the new seals in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 IMO if you are looking at stripping them there is no difference in a good clean up and a thorough clean up as it should be done right in the first place If you are stripping them then there is no more to it it really is as simple as strip them remove all seals clean them up and reassemble with new seals Whichever kit you buy make sure you get the seals that go between the two calipers too Your two main concerns should be the grove where the seals sit and the pistons. The groves need to be spotless and the pistons need to be rust and pit free Pistons are expensive! I would also replace the bleed nipples too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 IMO if you are looking at stripping them there is no difference in a good clean up and a thorough clean up as it should be done right in the first place If you are stripping them then there is no more to it it really is as simple as strip them remove all seals clean them up and reassemble with new seals Whichever kit you buy make sure you get the seals that go between the two calipers too Your two main concerns should be the grove where the seals sit and the pistons. The groves need to be spotless and the pistons need to be rust and pit free Pistons are expensive! I would also replace the bleed nipples too Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Totally agree with what [mention]Stu[/mention] and [mention]Richzx6r[/mention] have said but I would add if you are going to split the calipers it is worth cracking off the allen headed bolts that hold the two halves of the caliper together whilst the caliper is bolted in place on the fork legs.Don`t remove or slacken them too much as this is purely to avoid having to hold them tight in a vice while you are disassemling.I believe the alloy used in manufacture is quite brittle and prone to damage so just treat them a little gently.CheersIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Totally agree with what @Stu and @Richzx6r have said but I would add if you are going to split the calipers it is worth cracking off the allen headed bolts that hold the two halves of the caliper together whilst the caliper is bolted in place on the fork legs.Don`t remove or slacken them too much as this is purely to avoid having to hold them tight in a vice while you are disassemling.I believe the alloy used in manufacture is quite brittle and prone to damage so just treat them a little gently.CheersIan Same for banjo bolts and bleed nipples and don't forget to pump the pistons as far out as you can without them popping out on both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Totally agree with what @Stu and @Richzx6r have said but I would add if you are going to split the calipers it is worth cracking off the allen headed bolts that hold the two halves of the caliper together whilst the caliper is bolted in place on the fork legs.Don`t remove or slacken them too much as this is purely to avoid having to hold them tight in a vice while you are disassemling.I believe the alloy used in manufacture is quite brittle and prone to damage so just treat them a little gently.CheersIan Same for banjo bolts and bleed nipples and don't forget to pump the pistons as far out as you can without them popping out on both sides All top tips.Short of [mention]Stu[/mention] or [mention]Richzx6r[/mention] popping round and doing them for you I would say you are about set to go.CheersIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Also a decent sized spanner is usually the right size to fit in the calipers to stop the pistons coming all the way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Also a decent sized spanner is usually the right size to fit in the calipers to stop the pistons coming all the way out I prefer to use a piece of wood for that job but a spanner would do just as well and stop me having to rummage about looking for the bit of wood I cut to size last time before giving up and cutting a new one lol.Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Also a decent sized spanner is usually the right size to fit in the calipers to stop the pistons coming all the way out I prefer to use a piece of wood for that job but a spanner would do just as well and stop me having to rummage about looking for the bit of wood I cut to size last time before giving up and cutting a new one lol.Cheers Ian I use the spanner as it sits between the slots where the disc runs so doesn't get pushed too far one way if you get a free moving piston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Frog Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 That makes sense.I suppose we all pick up different ways of doing stuff along the way which is why things like this are useful regardless of your level of experience.CheersIan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 As they say everyday is a school day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James in Brum Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 Thank you all. Seems consensus is Seals and bleed nipple to buy, rest is about cleaning thank you for the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Just a question when splitting the caliper does it always need a new seal or can I use the ones I have now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I have re used seals many times with no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I have re used seals many times with no issues I haven't split calipers before is the reason for my question as I have a set of tokicos on the a1p and a set of 4 pot triumph calipers on the j1 which I'm thinking of swapping over and ripping apart and cleaning them both up I have removed just pistons and seals just not a full strip down and clean but cheers for clearing up that I can reuse all the seals I just hope they go back together and dont start leaking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I have re used seals many times with no issues I haven't split calipers before is the reason for my question as I have a set of tokicos on the a1p and a set of 4 pot triumph calipers on the j1 which I'm thinking of swapping over and ripping apart and cleaning them both up I have removed just pistons and seals just not a full strip down and clean but cheers for clearing up that I can reuse all the seals I just hope they go back together and dont start leaking well seals are there to stop the leaks so if it doesn't leak then all is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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