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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by Mawsley » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm

XTreme wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:43 pm
S-Westerly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:41 pm
XTreme wrote:
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Yeh......it does look pretty bizarre there!

Nobody ever gave a shit about statues before?
What should have been done is either far more background information at the site or removal of the statue to a museum where the entire history could be placed in context. I believe this is what is happening now.
Years ago they removed all the statues of Franco across the country......pretty sure they went to museums.
But how will anybody know fascism is bad without the statues?
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by S-Westerly » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:31 pm

Can understand that as Franco would have directly caused a lot of grief to many Spaniards still alive particularly in the he former republican stronghold of the north.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by RantMachine » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:40 pm

S-Westerly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:41 pm
In a poll conducted after the statue's removal some 47% wanted it restored. (Not me). What should have been done is either far more background information at the site or removal of the statue to a museum where the entire history could be placed in context. I believe this is what is happening now.

I suspect there will be less statue assault now as the government has woken up to the fact idleness in the face of mobs (of whatever persuasion) is not a vote winner.
I'm a huge believer that in many of these instances there is an opportunity to add additional context to the statues (either in their current location or in a museum) in the way that you're describing. But, funny that it gets "talked about" for so long yet requires this type of action outside of the rule of law before anyone actually makes a move to change anything within it.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by S-Westerly » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:46 pm

RantMachine wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:40 pm
S-Westerly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:41 pm
In a poll conducted after the statue's removal some 47% wanted it restored. (Not me). What should have been done is either far more background information at the site or removal of the statue to a museum where the entire history could be placed in context. I believe this is what is happening now.

I suspect there will be less statue assault now as the government has woken up to the fact idleness in the face of mobs (of whatever persuasion) is not a vote winner.
I'm a huge believer that in many of these instances there is an opportunity to add additional context to the statues (either in their current location or in a museum) in the way that you're describing. But, funny that it gets "talked about" for so long yet requires this type of action outside of the rule of law before anyone actually makes a move to change anything within it.
Bureaucratic inertia is a wonderful thing. Whether it's moving a statue or dealing with a pandemic there's a lot of responsibility dodging among some of our bureaucrats.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by RantMachine » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:17 pm

S-Westerly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:46 pm
Bureaucratic inertia is a wonderful thing. Whether it's moving a statue or dealing with a pandemic there's a lot of responsibility dodging among some of our bureaucrats.
Such is the joy of human behavior. The farther removed we become from anything, the more readily we dismiss it as unnecessary and become inclined towards inaction. Just as much a reason for bureaucratic inertia as for the general inhumane soullessness of large businesses. We're a feckless lazy bunch whenever we can justify it to ourselves!
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by XTreme » Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:33 pm

Mawsley wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm
XTreme wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:43 pm
S-Westerly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:41 pm


What should have been done is either far more background information at the site or removal of the statue to a museum where the entire history could be placed in context. I believe this is what is happening now.
Years ago they removed all the statues of Franco across the country......pretty sure they went to museums.
But how will anybody know fascism is bad without the statues?
As you well know.......it's alive and well these days Dave!

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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by Mawsley » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:55 am

XTreme wrote:
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As you well know.......it's alive and well these days Dave!
Bloody right I knows it. Banned me from chips and crisps, she has. Worse than Hitler, my wife. Worse.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by RantMachine » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:54 am

XTreme wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:33 pm
Mawsley wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:22 pm
XTreme wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:43 pm


Years ago they removed all the statues of Franco across the country......pretty sure they went to museums.
But how will anybody know fascism is bad without the statues?
As you well know.......it's alive and well these days Dave!
Darn right it is!!
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by XTreme » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:24 pm

The Covid restrictions have been relaxed here, now they're getting spontaneous outbreaks around the country......including 10 in Granada!

And I've got to do a round trip of 320kms tomorrow to one of the hospitals in the city for the wife to have more arthritis tests!

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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by Swagman » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Stay safe XTreme. :thumb:

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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by XTreme » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:41 pm

Swagman wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:42 pm
Stay safe XTreme. :thumb:
Cheers....it's masks everywhere here and I'll be keeping my distance!

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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by skyrider » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:22 pm

take care
the law in all it's majestic equality forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges to beg in the street and to steal bread.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by Ian Frog » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:07 pm

Go steady and take care.
Hope it goes well.
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by XTreme » Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:56 pm

See the state on this twat today? :shock:
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Re: Lockdown on TMBF!

Post by James in Brum » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:12 pm

In the homeopathy department we will not be changing our practices, we continue to want colleagues to work at home as much as is possible. We will stick with two metres, we are taking the view that the work worse need protecting and the crisis is not securely passed yet.
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