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Hi guys n girls, pretty much every time I get off the bike and go about normal non-riding stuff my back starts tightening up. From the middle to top and across the shoulders.


I initilly thought it was because I was tense and not riding relxed, but I'm not feeling any stress when riding, even though I'm still pretty new at this game.


I'm fairly upright on the bike (MT-125), so not a sportster.


Any idea's?


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Hi guys n girls, pretty much every time I get off the bike and go about normal non-riding stuff my back starts tightening up. From the middle to top and across the shoulders.


I initilly thought it was because I was tense and not riding relxed, but I'm not feeling any stress when riding, even though I'm still pretty new at this game.


I'm fairly upright on the bike (MT-125), so not a sportster.


Any idea's?


Fish

 

Obvious answer from me, book an appointment with your GP.

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I get it because of riding a sports bike but for me its caused by not enough miles to condition my muscles and the fact I'm craning my head up all the time.


If your on an upright bike then there may be a musculoskeletal problem but as rob said get on to the drs

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I get a lot of back ache, years of abuse, especially in my last job. Still get a sore back after a long ride. I tend to go and see a physio, they know a lot more about musculoskeletal problems than your GP. Odds are your GP will just prescribe an anti inflammatory such as Naproxen or something similar that just masks the issue and doesn't cure it.

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Ive a horrendously bad back. Im in complete flare up at the moment. The only respite i get is on my sport bike although its only a 125 its still that sports bike position im in.

Id get yourself off to a good physio. Whats your job?

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To my backache I use daily 1000mg of cod liver oil

200mg daily dose of devil's claw (diy capsules)

when required a min 400mg Ibuprofen up to 4X400mg /day


Nothing like a few days on sunny Iberian peninsula to have it sorted ;) specially the atlantic coast :)

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I get a lot of back ache, years of abuse, especially in my last job. Still get a sore back after a long ride. I tend to go and see a physio, they know a lot more about musculoskeletal problems than your GP. Odds are your GP will just prescribe an anti inflammatory such as Naproxen or something similar that just masks the issue and doesn't cure it.

 

This. GPs are not good for these sort of problems. Go see a good physio or osteo.

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I get a lot of back ache, years of abuse, especially in my last job. Still get a sore back after a long ride. I tend to go and see a physio, they know a lot more about musculoskeletal problems than your GP. Odds are your GP will just prescribe an anti inflammatory such as Naproxen or something similar that just masks the issue and doesn't cure it.

 

This. GPs are not good for these sort of problems. Go see a good physio or osteo.

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Soz if my advice to book a GP appointment was not well received.


As I work for the NHS, I was wondering how you guys access physiotherapy without being referred by your GP? Do you access private healthcare?


I was just thinking that for some, private healthcare might not be affordable.


It's a genuine question, not being challenging. I have had to be recently referred to a private cardiologist by my NHS GP and after looking at their prices for private consultation, it made my eyes water. Very thankful I don't have to pay for it.

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Private physio are usually not that expensive. When my shoulder was bad I used to see a sports physio about every 4 months. Cost less than my wife's hairdresser.

You can get referred by a GP but it can take ages and if a repeat visit is needed as it usually is again it takes time. With me being at sea half the year the NHS frequently is awkward when it comes to getting appointments that work for me as opposed to the NHS.

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I used a physio when I tore my bicep. Then used an osteo for back/ shoulder problems. My GP didn't want to refer and just told me to rest and take painkillers(to be fair he was crap and later struck off I think). My partner had a similar issue, her Gp (different to mine) didn't want to refer her for an issue with her Achilles.


Not overly expensive, and you can get an appointment very quickly. My job was physical so wanted it treated quickly.

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Soz if my advice to book a GP appointment was not well received.


As I work for the NHS, I was wondering how you guys access physiotherapy without being referred by your GP? Do you access private healthcare?


I was just thinking that for some, private healthcare might not be affordable.


It's a genuine question, not being challenging. I have had to be recently referred to a private cardiologist by my NHS GP and after looking at their prices for private consultation, it made my eyes water. Very thankful I don't have to pay for it.

 

There is self referral for physio in a lot of areas now for physio. Ps if you are NHS and you mention it on your referral you will be seen no quicker but they will know!

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Hi guys n girls, pretty much every time I get off the bike and go about normal non-riding stuff my back starts tightening up. From the middle to top and across the shoulders.


I initilly thought it was because I was tense and not riding relxed, but I'm not feeling any stress when riding, even though I'm still pretty new at this game.


I'm fairly upright on the bike (MT-125), so not a sportster.


Any idea's?


Fish

 

Although you may not be feeling stressed riding I'd bet you're tensing up all the same and what you are experiencing is the aftermath. Check how strong your grip on the bars is, it is a natural tendency to grip hard and that transfers stress into the areas you're experiencing the pain across. It can take quite a determined effort to hold the grips more lightly.


The other thing which I picked up on here only recently is Grip Puppies. I'd known about them for years and always thought they were a gimmick - but they work. I fitted them to both bikes and to be honest I am amazed at the difference. Not only do they smooth out vibration but they seem to make the grips feel more natural. I went out on a ride today that I usually feel a bit of backache afterwards - first time I've been that route since fitting them - and I really noticed the difference.

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Soz if my advice to book a GP appointment was not well received.


As I work for the NHS, I was wondering how you guys access physiotherapy without being referred by your GP? Do you access private healthcare?


I was just thinking that for some, private healthcare might not be affordable.


It's a genuine question, not being challenging. I have had to be recently referred to a private cardiologist by my NHS GP and after looking at their prices for private consultation, it made my eyes water. Very thankful I don't have to pay for it.

 

There is self referral for physio in a lot of areas now for physio. Ps if you are NHS and you mention it on your referral you will be seen no quicker but they will know!

 

Cheers, that's good to know. I was seen very quickly, maybe I was lucky.

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When I've been to a private physio, they examine you thoroughly, suggest exercises, and check you're doing them right. It costs, but as said above, less than my wife's hairdo.

When I've gone the GP with back ache, I the "take two paracetamol" thing, even when I've turned up with a ruptured disc. Sometimes I get a ticking off for trying to play hooky from work too. All for free.

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Soz if my advice to book a GP appointment was not well received.


As I work for the NHS, I was wondering how you guys access physiotherapy without being referred by your GP? Do you access private healthcare?


I was just thinking that for some, private healthcare might not be affordable.


It's a genuine question, not being challenging. I have had to be recently referred to a private cardiologist by my NHS GP and after looking at their prices for private consultation, it made my eyes water. Very thankful I don't have to pay for it.

 

A lot of places allow for self referral for physio therapy now. However, if the pain is bad enough £35 for a private physio session is money well spent. Ring the local NHS Trust and they’ll tell you if you can self refer. If I recall the facility to do this was brought in to reduce GP workload....just an after thought, NHS staff are supposed to get priority appointments :thumb:

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Thanks for all the replies and debates. I'm a computer engineer/office worker. I have had issues with my lower back in the past, but not for a long while now.


I will pop by a physio tomorrow to see if they are open and how soon they can see me. Getting any sort of referral from my GP is a joke. I understand how busy the NHS are and how much of a great job they do, but the physio I've had in the past was not really fit for purpose and I ended up finding my own physio to help repair turn knee ligaments.


I'll give the grip puppies a look, but I'm not aiming to keep this bike for that long.... Hopefully


Fish

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I developed lower back problems when I had a job sat at a desk and the chair wasn't a good one. If you've had back issues in the past the problem doesn't go away even though you may not be currently experiencing pain there. Make sure that your workplace makes provision for proper posture. I've spent a small fortune on an office chair for my current desk.

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That’s true, if your job is in front of computer you need proper chair.

Good one cost a lot, I ordered one for my office (ship office), it was 800€, fortunately on ship account.

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I’ve just bought myself an adapter desktop thingy that means I can sit at my desk or I can stand up and it raises. Been an absolute saver, particularly whilst I have been in the car for the commute which is bad for the back, and not on my bike, which is bad for my back to miss out on.

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The chairs are always supplied by the customers I get based at and most of the time they are excellent.


Ihopefully going to drop by an osteopath tomorrow and see how long the wait is.


Fish

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Thanks for all the replies and debates. I'm a computer engineer/office worker. I have had issues with my lower back in the past, but not for a long while now.


I will pop by a physio tomorrow to see if they are open and how soon they can see me. Getting any sort of referral from my GP is a joke. I understand how busy the NHS are and how much of a great job they do, but the physio I've had in the past was not really fit for purpose and I ended up finding my own physio to help repair turn knee ligaments.


I'll give the grip puppies a look, but I'm not aiming to keep this bike for that long.... Hopefully


Fish

Physio and ost can only treat certain conditions.

If the pain is severe, and i mean proper severe not shandy drinking southern severe then the GP will eventually refer you to a specialist.


You may then be granted a MRI scan.

This is the only way to truly diagnose the issue.


I know this from personal experience after having spinal surgery.


Good luck.

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Thanks for all the replies and debates. I'm a computer engineer/office worker. I have had issues with my lower back in the past, but not for a long while now.


I will pop by a physio tomorrow to see if they are open and how soon they can see me. Getting any sort of referral from my GP is a joke. I understand how busy the NHS are and how much of a great job they do, but the physio I've had in the past was not really fit for purpose and I ended up finding my own physio to help repair turn knee ligaments.


I'll give the grip puppies a look, but I'm not aiming to keep this bike for that long.... Hopefully


Fish

Physio and ost can only treat certain conditions.

If the pain is severe, and i mean proper severe not shandy drinking southern severe then the GP will eventually refer you to a specialist.


You may then be granted a MRI scan.

This is the only way to truly diagnose the issue.


I know this from personal experience after having spinal surgery.


Good luck.

In my experience it is the NHS physio who will gatekeep any onward referral. When my back was at its worst it was gp for anti-inflammatory medicine, physio as expert in musculoskeletal health, it was looking like we might have needed to look towards surgery (luckily not because I actually did my exercises) and it would have been the physio who directed that referral.

In the three counties I have accessed back healthcare in the past ten years this very good example of stepped care has been folllowed.


Best tip is do not dismiss the idea of the exercises from the Physioterrorist, even with backs that feel debilitating and very painful the right exercises can be the solution and. Surgery almost never (in my experience with family and peers) lead to solving the problem just diminishing the impact a bit. Life of bad back is feasible with surgery.

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