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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:29 am

gymwitch wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:41 am
Thats awesome !!! Dont suppose you have any leather left for a little project???
Depends on the size. But probably not because I'm using some for refurbishing the seats on my shadow.
what size you need?
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:29 pm

Some data on the trailer.

Weight:
left wheel 22.4 kg
right wheel 22.6 kg
front wheel (jokey) 15.5 kg
total net weight 60.50 kg (61 kg on VIN plate as solar cell will be removable)
Total max weight 150 kg
loadable weight 89 kg

Still to be added.
Solar cell and converter 3.5 kg (including battery)
300 gr on added resin layers

capacity (average measures):
base: 93.5 X 70.5 X 31 cm = 203 lt
cover: 93.5 X 70.5 X 20.5 cm = 135 lt
total volume: 338 lt

weight on hitch (unladen) 14.8kg Aprox 23%
This is relatively high for what I found online (9 to 15%) but can be balanced by a good distribution when loading it. and the additional weight of the solar cell to be added on the rear.
Dimensions don't consider small rebates and wheel arches as this would roughly balance each other out.

Considering the fixed weight for tent (4kg), air mattress (3.2kg) and all other "actual essentials" of around 5kg I'll be left with a net available weight of just over 76kg.

I think I can manage that. :cheers:
Although the first comment I got was "ONLY 75kg????????" :scratch:
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm

And this concludes the trailer soap :cool:

Final fittings to the trailer and towbar.
In the trailer I've installed the hinges for the topbox, existing locks and cover holders. Has to adjust the fitting on the holders.
On the towbar I've add the security cable holder and a small chain to hold the pin in case it comes undone.

did 2 run tests.
First test empty trailer top speed 40mph for 2 miles

Trailer behaviour was very good, not jumping around and over 30 looked glued to the ground :)
At slower speed I noticed the many bumps on covers and potholes but hardly noticeable the pull on the bike.

second test run.
trailer was loaded with 2 tents, 2 air bed and 2 large bags all together around 13kg

Did a longer run, around 10 miles.
This time the trailer was very steady and hardly any noise from the bumps.
65 mph top speed on dual carriage (A92) and around 5 miles on city riding.

Again an excellent behaviour and hardly no pull on the bike.

Isn't pretty, some techniques should have been different, like using vacuum on laminating the carbon fibre.
But it is waterproof, very strong and hopefully next year I'll be riding to the continent :thumb:
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by Swagman » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:55 pm

Great just need a camping hol now to test it properly. :thumb:

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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm

Yeah, even if it ids just a 4 days weekend :)
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by Six30 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:06 pm

If Frankenstein had a trailer ....
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by raesewell » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:35 pm

You just need to get some paint on it now.

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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by TimR » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:41 pm

I would make sure of the legality of your rear reflectors on trailer as they should be of the triangle variety
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:31 pm

TimR wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:41 pm
I would make sure of the legality of your rear reflectors on trailer as they should be of the triangle variety

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That and all other details were check with DVLA.
Those rules apply to trailers over 350kg. Apparently there is little legislation for trailers for motorbikes and DVLA told me that the ones I have are legal.
Same for the light setting, the important is the distance to the edge of the trailer, in this case the end of the mudguards.
There is a implied obligation to have a VIN plate indicating the weight which I have :)
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by TimR » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:24 am

husoi wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:31 pm
TimR wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:41 pm
I would make sure of the legality of your rear reflectors on trailer as they should be of the triangle variety

Screenshot_20200919-193908.png
That and all other details were check with DVLA.
Those rules apply to trailers over 350kg. Apparently there is little legislation for trailers for motorbikes and DVLA told me that the ones I have are legal.
Same for the light setting, the important is the distance to the edge of the trailer, in this case the end of the mudguards.
There is a implied obligation to have a VIN plate indicating the weight which I have :)
See i would differ on that and they may have got your question mixed up with additional rear retro reflectors which are optional on 01 type trailers whilst red triangle reflectors are mandatory on all trailers

For relevance check the table page 4 of the 2019 iva manual ..( i know your not having it tested )
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:14 am

TimR wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:24 am
husoi wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:31 pm
TimR wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:41 pm
I would make sure of the legality of your rear reflectors on trailer as they should be of the triangle variety

Screenshot_20200919-193908.png
That and all other details were check with DVLA.
Those rules apply to trailers over 350kg. Apparently there is little legislation for trailers for motorbikes and DVLA told me that the ones I have are legal.
Same for the light setting, the important is the distance to the edge of the trailer, in this case the end of the mudguards.
There is a implied obligation to have a VIN plate indicating the weight which I have :)
See i would differ on that and they may have got your question mixed up with additional rear retro reflectors which are optional on 01 type trailers whilst red triangle reflectors are mandatory on all trailers

For relevance check the table page 4 of the 2019 iva manual ..( i know your not having it tested )
I know what you mean, apparently this type of trailer doesn't fall into 01 class, more like a 01-A class with no proper rules.
This because there are very few in the UK to be worth making any legislation for them.
While on the other side of the pond they have 1,000s of diy motorbike trailers in here you probably can count them by the fingers of 1 hand.
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by onesea » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:27 pm

husoi wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm
and hardly any noise from the bumps.
60 mph top speed on dual carriage
Let me just correct that for you :wink:
I am sure it was tested to maximum legal road speed...
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by husoi » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:46 pm

onesea wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:27 pm
husoi wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm
and hardly any noise from the bumps.
60 mph top speed on dual carriage
Let me just correct that for you :wink:
I am sure it was tested to maximum legal road speed...
I know that while pulling a trailer the max speed is 60mph
Testing conditions imply ensuring that no other road users are on sight and that it is safe to do so.
5mph over the limit for a few seconds is less than the 10% discretionary tolerance usually police uses and indicates me that it is safe to use the trailer up to legal speed limit without any risk :wink:
Maybe one of these days I'll take it to knockhill and do a full testing.
That would include 2 sets of tests, loaded and unladen and test if for drifting, suspension, cornering limits, etc.

Do you think I'll be bothered with all that? :P

Almost forgot..
The heavy brake test was done on an isolated road and it worked perfectly :thumb:
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Re: Pull behind trailer project

Post by onesea » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:09 pm

husoi wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:46 pm

5mph over the limit for a few seconds is less than the 10% discretionary tolerance usually police
I got a course for 8mph over, towing a caravan in Dorset.

The police started the days lectures staying they understood how easy it is to be delayed by caravans and tourists then to speed afterwards.

They where not happy when I asked as I was a tourist and towing a caravan when I got caught, could I be exempted from the course? :cheers:
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