manxie49 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 2020 BMW S 1000 RR lookalike. It’s actually a Chinese copy. Say hello to the Moto S450RR! The Chinese seem to be definitely upping their game....As far as styling goes at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerontious Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Still look cheap and flimsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 does look nice , a lot of their bikes do.... but fook off China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 FFS it's even got a fake BMW like badge ! What's wrong with these people ? Can't they just pay some designers to make something original ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swagman Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 That would be a big fat no Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six30 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 its not just bikes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geofferz Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 People don't like rip offs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxie49 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 I wouldn't want one but they're certainly starting to look the part, even if the image is a BMW rip off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD-40 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It's not just shit...it's stolen shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It's nothing new . Boeing B29 .... Or is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 People don't like rip offs!! Velcro.....what a rip off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrider Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 now that is decent stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The trouble with China is that many of the people there are incredibly status conscious and the most desirable possessions are often western. They can't afford to buy them so unscrupulous companies basically make rip-off copies which are sold only in China. It's the same with high-end watches etc. The Chinese government (as crooked as they come) actively encourages it as all the money spent stays in China. Yet another reason why I try and avoid buying stuff made there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbob Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've bought one of these and the quality is very good . Kawasaki price £309.50 which is just shy of what I paid for the whole bike . It's a bit difficult to stand on principle when you're offered a 90% discount . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sadly this is so, when we get ripped off at one end by trying to do the right thing with ridiculously high prices or ripped off by buying something cheap that's a rip off. On the plus side i have bought a couple of things made in China that have not necessarily been that cheap because they've been well made and used quality materials. They can make decent stuff when they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHorton Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sadly this is so, when we get ripped off at one end by trying to do the right thing with ridiculously high prices or ripped off by buying something cheap that's a rip off. On the plus side i have bought a couple of things made in China that have not necessarily been that cheap because they've been well made and used quality materials. They can make decent stuff when they want to. That sums it up quite well! On the point of the Chinese made stuff it all depends what you want, you want to buy cheap they make cheap. You want quality they can make it and usually undercut others, a lot of the raw materials they have access to. I used to be an engineer and China does make some good stuff but some chinese owners also like the provenance of certain things and prefer they are made where they should be. I find American owned companies the worst for buying a Company for what it is and then totally ruining it by cost cutting making it a totally different entity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Westerly Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The trouble is that American companies have done it to themselves hence the rust belt. We're not much better as a lot of heavy engineering has vanished from the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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