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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:42 am

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I'm not entirely against electric power . All of my RC planes are electric now . I hasten to add that mine are all at the other end of the scale to this thing .
I used to fly my electrics on a field at the bottom of our road. There was a footpath some distance away which I avoided but sometimes people would wander over and watch. If they got too close or just began to annoy me I just did a low pass at full throttle and they decided they'd seen enough.

I must confess I do enjoy the more gentle kind of models more, they are more of an aeroplane and less of a guided missile.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by onesea » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:53 am

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This one is leaner legal :thumb:
Which is quite scary, I have taken the opinion that its not top speed causes accidents its how quick you get there...

A new rider could easily find themselves going to quick to easy on a bike like that... I looked at electric bikes both "pedal assist" and "motor", I could deal with the range on one of my bikes. How ever it was still cheaper to run a motorbike for many years than an electric bike..

They will come and have no issues with that but they have to work and be affordable or how it may end up the only choice....
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by geofferz » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:57 am

75mph top speed?

I'd rather walk.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by Marino » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:03 am

I still believe that electricity is for vacuum cleaners, blenders, hair dryers etc.
As long they don’t get same or better range with same speeds as petrol vehicles, 5 min charging time, at least same price as petrol counterparts,
And still they will be ghostly quiet, half of the trill is the exhaust music.
Hope governments will not prohibit petrol bikes at least next 15 years, after that who cares. :thumb:

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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by Bender » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:15 am

geofferz wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:57 am
75mph top speed?

I'd rather walk.
5 mile over the speed limit 😁

Battery technology needs to change for costs to lower, but the more companies pushing things forward the sooner that's going to happen.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by dynax » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:21 am

It's not so much about top speed with electric but more about the torque available at the throttle, 0-60 in the blink of an eye, once these machines become more obtainable there will also be an increase in used spares as so many will get binned within a short time of ownership :thumb:
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by fastbob » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:08 am

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
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fastbob wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:30 pm
I'm not entirely against electric power . All of my RC planes are electric now . I hasten to add that mine are all at the other end of the scale to this thing .
I used to fly my electrics on a field at the bottom of our road. There was a footpath some distance away which I avoided but sometimes people would wander over and watch. If they got too close or just began to annoy me I just did a low pass at full throttle and they decided they'd seen enough.

I must confess I do enjoy the more gentle kind of models more, they are more of an aeroplane and less of a guided missile.
I enjoy the gentle kind of models too . Most of mine are scaled up Keil Kraft rubber powered designs built from plans with micro RC and outrunner motors . Not something that could be done when I first started building 50 years ago .

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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by husoi » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:23 am

Marino wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:03 am
I still believe that electricity is for vacuum cleaners, blenders, hair dryers etc.
As long they don’t get same or better range with same speeds as petrol vehicles, 5 min charging time, at least same price as petrol counterparts,
And still they will be ghostly quiet, half of the trill is the exhaust music.
Hope governments will not prohibit petrol bikes at least next 15 years, after that who cares. :thumb:
When was the last time you had a drive where you had to refuel halfway the trip?

Newer EV's have a range of 200 to 350 miles. Do you drive that far every day?
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by Marino » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am

husoi wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:23 am
Marino wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:03 am
I still believe that electricity is for vacuum cleaners, blenders, hair dryers etc.
As long they don’t get same or better range with same speeds as petrol vehicles, 5 min charging time, at least same price as petrol counterparts,
And still they will be ghostly quiet, half of the trill is the exhaust music.
Hope governments will not prohibit petrol bikes at least next 15 years, after that who cares. :thumb:
When was the last time you had a drive where you had to refuel halfway the trip?

Newer EV's have a range of 200 to 350 miles. Do you drive that far every day?
Unfortunately I don’t drive every day, I don’t commute, but when I have a time and chance to drive yes I doo much more than that. And despite the range, it takes me just few minutes to refill 60 litres tank or les for motorcycle 23 litres.
As I wrote I don’t commute and all my drives/rides are for pleasure only

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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by geofferz » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:01 am

husoi wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:23 am
Marino wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:03 am
I still believe that electricity is for vacuum cleaners, blenders, hair dryers etc.
As long they don’t get same or better range with same speeds as petrol vehicles, 5 min charging time, at least same price as petrol counterparts,
And still they will be ghostly quiet, half of the trill is the exhaust music.
Hope governments will not prohibit petrol bikes at least next 15 years, after that who cares. :thumb:
When was the last time you had a drive where you had to refuel halfway the trip?

Newer EV's have a range of 200 to 350 miles. Do you drive that far every day?
I think it's the charge time. 6 hours for 140km is nuts. 20 mins, fine. I often ride more than 140km in a day. Yes you'd have a charging point at home so it would be good to go every morning, but 6 hours... Not ready yet.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by manxie49 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:30 pm

Electric bikes are certainly not for me, ridiculous charge times, restricted range, which basically knocks touring on the head, most of them look pig ugly and worst off all .... NO NOISE!.....In fact, to celebrate the invention of the internal combustion engine, I'm gonna go sit on the drive and rev my engine just to P--s off my greeny neighbours "who incidentally drive a big diesel motorhome to attend ER rallies in the UK", Go figure!! :lol:
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by Mississippi Bullfrog » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:23 pm

I'll just say very quietly that most electric bikes have a greater range than the Bobber. Fill the tank to the brim and the computer tells you you've got 88 miles to the next petrol stop.

Mind you, with just a few inches of suspension travel you're pretty damn glad when the fuel warning light comes on.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by manxie49 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:05 pm

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:23 pm
I'll just say very quietly that most electric bikes have a greater range than the Bobber. Fill the tank to the brim and the computer tells you you've got 88 miles to the next petrol stop.

Mind you, with just a few inches of suspension travel you're pretty damn glad when the fuel warning light comes on.
On the up side they do sound pretty damn good though :thumb:
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by geofferz » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:22 pm

Mississippi Bullfrog wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:23 pm
I'll just say very quietly that most electric bikes have a greater range than the Bobber. Fill the tank to the brim and the computer tells you you've got 88 miles to the next petrol stop.

Mind you, with just a few inches of suspension travel you're pretty damn glad when the fuel warning light comes on.
I get 100 miles max but I can refill in 5 hours 57 minutes less then this electric thing.
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Re: Practical electric bike?

Post by onesea » Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:41 pm

geofferz wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:57 am
75mph top speed?

I'd rather walk.
If it can hold that up a hill, it will be quicker than most 125cc out there..
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