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Not leaning over.

Post by someone » Tue May 09, 2017 2:22 pm

This is mainly just random nonsense with no real point to it, but I refuse to believe that I lean over on corners.

To be clear, I reluctantly accept that I too have to obey the laws of physics, and I know how bikes go around corners. I even have a camera mounted on my bars which inexplicably tilts the view a little when going around them too.

But this is the era of fake news, and it is therefore my right to wilfully choose to believe something that I know is not true.

So on Sunday I was crawling along on my little 125 along the A272 between Winchester and Petersfield when a bike when whizzing past. Which is not that unusual, and usually they are very quickly out of sight. But there were some cars several hundred yards ahead that they were stuck behind for a while.

I have only ever ridden alone, so the only time I am behind other bikers is in town.

Like just before getting back home on Sunday, when I made a lovely sound as I locked the rear wheel. A pizza scooterist had moved in front of me and suddenly slammed on the brakes as he was about to go past a big pot hole. Not over it. Not even having to swerve around it. Taking a line that was passing the side of it. But that is a separate, and more boring, anecdote from the day.

In town things are slow enough to not need much leaning. Which is good, because it being something I never do.

It was a bit different though when going at 60mph, the same as the not-too-distant cars, and seeing the bike stuck behind them having to lean. It made me slow down more than I needed to when I reached the same corner as I, someone who never leans, was most definitely not going to do that. Besides, I am not scheduled to fall off my bike until December — given accidents in October 2015 and November 2016 — so I need to stay upright for a few more months yet.

But it was quite disconcerting to see someone leaned over so much doing the same speed as me rather than when zooming off at 100mph. Thankfully that biker were soon able to overtake the cars and were gone, leaving me to the comfort of my delusion. And the other bikers I saw, and there were loads, were either quickly out of sight or going the other way.

As I say, there is no real point to this post. I guess though I just need to get used to seeing other bikes going around corners so all this leaning business becomes normal. Then instead of worrying about how scary it looks, I can just laugh at their unnecessary stupidity knowing they could have just stayed upright around them like me.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Stu » Tue May 09, 2017 2:26 pm

:scratch: :tumble:
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Baldrick » Tue May 09, 2017 3:49 pm

N R A T. :shock:

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Joeman » Tue May 09, 2017 3:56 pm

been sniffing the funky stuff again i presume??
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by someone » Tue May 09, 2017 7:59 pm

The point is that as much as I know you have to lean to turn, it happens automatically and is not something I want to think about.

So it just freaked me out a little seeing how obviously you need to lean at those speeds, having never had opportunity to see it before. Because obviously I cannot see myself, and as I ride alone I have never had anyone on a bike in front of me.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Stu » Tue May 09, 2017 8:01 pm

Do you ride/walk/commute with your eyes shut?

surely you have seen some bike racing on the TV to see lean angles :?
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by fq-craigus » Wed May 10, 2017 12:14 am

Bikes don't turn, they bank

Stop thinking and just ride. How else you supposed to get the most out of your tyres if you don't use the edges of them

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by someone » Wed May 10, 2017 11:34 am

fq-craigus wrote:Stop thinking and just ride.
I do, which is precisely why actually seeing it and realizing was disconcerting.

But I enjoy myself plenty enough without wanting to get my knees down or care about the edge of my tyres. It is just like how people are happy to fly when they do not need to think about how something so heavy stays in the air.

And the only motorsport I watch is speedway, so not as much leaning going on there. But whilst I have obviously seen bits of other bike racing, there is a huge difference an amateur idiot like me between trundling along a road at 60mph towards corners obscured with trees and a professional going over 100mph into a corner with visibility all the way around and no oncoming traffic trying to get out every bit of performance. The two are far too different into how the corners are taken.

Like I said, I know how bikes have to corner, but there is a difference between knowing something academically and actually seeing and experiencing it.

If you ride in a group then you will get to follow other bikes at the same speed and it all looks normal. But being on my own on a slow bike I never get to catch anyone else up, and when people overtake me they quickly disappear into the distance rather than then slow down to my speed. So it is not really that surprising I have not been in that position of seeing it before, even without having to have my eyes closed.

But it was just a strange observation that after 14k miles over the past two years it is not something I have ever seen in person and so it had that "airplane falling from the sky" effect. Obviously in future I will keep such things to myself.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Hoggs » Wed May 10, 2017 8:24 pm

don't listen to them someone they all spout shit no one else understands all the time :lol: :up:

new headstock bearings means I'm really enjoying moving around on the bike and getting a bit of a lean on :mrgreen: probably feels more epic than it is... never seen myself go round a corner :lol:
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Sleepy_RR » Sun May 14, 2017 12:12 pm

someone wrote:...

But it was quite disconcerting to see someone leaned over so much doing the same speed as me rather than when zooming off at 100mph. Thankfully that biker were soon able to overtake the cars and were gone, leaving me to the comfort of my delusion. And the other bikers I saw, and there were loads, were either quickly out of sight or going the other way.

As I say, there is no real point to this post. I guess though I just need to get used to seeing other bikes going around corners so all this leaning business becomes normal. Then instead of worrying about how scary it looks, I can just laugh at their unnecessary stupidity knowing they could have just stayed upright around them like me.

There is no need to lean in the corners... I have been part of some "road racing" events, few guys that wanted to lean as far as possible in almost every corner :roll: Corners that I wouldn't even class as sharp or worth doing so in that position but some of my bike friends were almost horizontal :lol: I found very few corners that gave me opportunity for the speed etc and needs of full lean was the only way to do it. Personally I think it's a laugh when I am following someone that perform a semi full leaning position in corner where I am sitting almost upright and handling the bike with my one hand :wink:

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Hoggs » Sun May 14, 2017 2:29 pm

Sleepy_RR wrote:Personally I think it's a laugh when I am following someone that perform a semi full leaning position in corner where I am sitting almost upright and handling the bike with my one hand :wink:
your way sounds a lot less fun.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Sleepy_RR » Sun May 14, 2017 2:46 pm

Hoggs wrote:
Sleepy_RR wrote:Personally I think it's a laugh when I am following someone that perform a semi full leaning position in corner where I am sitting almost upright and handling the bike with my one hand :wink:
your way sounds a lot less fun.
Roads around me are just very simple and easy taken at high speeds without leaning, that is all.

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Stu » Sun May 14, 2017 3:53 pm

If you are not leaning you are not going round corners :roll:
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Post by Sleepy_RR » Mon May 15, 2017 8:42 am

Stu wrote:If you are not leaning you are not going round corners :roll:
Seriously :roll:

Below I have explained my previous post only for you.
Sleepy_RR wrote:Personally I think it's a laugh when I am following someone that perform a semi full leaning position in corner where I am sitting almost upright and handling the bike with my one hand :wink:
Semi full leaning as in almost dragging their knee.
And I am almost upright = lean just a bit.

And I do not lean at all...I go with the curve :thumb:

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Stu » Mon May 15, 2017 8:44 am

Sleepy_RR wrote:
Stu wrote:If you are not leaning you are not going round corners :roll:
Seriously :roll:

Below I have explained my previous post only for you.
Sleepy_RR wrote:Personally I think it's a laugh when I am following someone that perform a semi full leaning position in corner where I am sitting almost upright and handling the bike with my one hand :wink:
Semi full leaning as in almost dragging their knee.
And I am almost upright = lean just a bit.

And I do not lean at all...I go with the curve :thumb:
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