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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by MR_W » Mon May 15, 2017 9:02 am

Even a push bike leans to get round corners. It only really becomes noticeable as you reach the higher speeds for that vehicle. Speedway bikes do lean, just not as much as the 62° that a MotoGp bike hits.

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Hoggs » Mon May 15, 2017 9:55 am

MR_W wrote: just not as much as the 62° that a MotoGp bike hits.
Or 68 if you're a jammy little Marquez :lol:
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by MR_W » Mon May 15, 2017 10:34 am

Hoggs wrote:
MR_W wrote: just not as much as the 62° that a MotoGp bike hits.
Or 68 if you're a jammy little Marquez [emoji38]
When the hell did he hit that?!

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Hoggs » Mon May 15, 2017 10:51 am

MR_W wrote: When the hell did he hit that?!

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by someone » Mon May 15, 2017 2:09 pm

Stu wrote:Read the topic title and don't think every post is in reply to you ;-)
Well if it was addressed to me, then thanks for the insight.

Although even if you could not see through the really heavy sarcasm, or me saying that I know how bikes corner, whatever did you think I meant by "this is the era of fake news, and it is therefore my right to wilfully choose to believe something that I know is not true" ?


Despite the lack of popularity of my anecdotes, I made another observation by following bikes yesterday. Although this time in town, so too slow for any large leaning observations.

I was travelling between Park Lane and Vauxhall on the way home, and several other bikers seemed to be going the same way. More than I am used to seeing together as I do not commute.

It was quite funny seeing them squeeze into every gap they could find.

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Anyway, no matter how often they ended up in front of me, my rubbish filtering still saw me keep catching them up, and at times even getting ahead of them. Glad I do not have to do that every day, but it kept me amused that there was so little difference between always trying to get to the front and my cautious and laid back approach.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Stu » Mon May 15, 2017 2:58 pm

someone wrote:
Stu wrote:Read the topic title and don't think every post is in reply to you ;-)
Well if it was addressed to me, then thanks for the insight.
It wasn't addressed to anyone in particular but if the cap fits then feel free to wear it :thumb:
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Mawsley » Tue May 16, 2017 11:18 am

I always get a semi in corners.
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by fq-craigus » Tue May 16, 2017 11:54 am

This topic is rather comical.

I think some people are getting confused with bike leaning and rider using bodyweight and hanging off in corners.

I have read a reply on here saying they were following a bike same speed and he is meant right over and you were upright. If you want to get into the physics, then your bike would have been at a greater lean angle than the rider hanging off.

If that's their riding style then so be it, I use my body in sharper corners not to get my knee down (although that would be nice) but in the event of something going wrong half way round the bend I'm more likely to lowside than highside like the bloke following sitting bolt upright who runs more of a risk of highsiding.

That's part of the reason why racers hang off along with achieving greater speeds round the bend and knowing the where the edge of the tyre is with their knee as a reference.

If you don't want to lean a bike in corners then don't, just buy a trike otherwise stop overthinking corners, look where want to go and ride safe

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Baloo » Tue May 16, 2017 12:22 pm

someone wrote:The point is that as much as I know you have to lean to turn, it happens automatically and is not something I want to think about.
Thinking about your steering, counter steering consciously and deliberately, and understanding how it all works, will help you no end the day you need to change direction quickly in an emergency, or you find yourself running wide in a bend for some reason.

It does happen automatically, but letting it happen automatically and saying its not something you want to think about means you will never learn proper machine control and means you are basically just a passenger, not the person truly in control of the bike.


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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Joeman » Tue May 16, 2017 7:05 pm

At 5mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike left.
At 60mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike right..
So at what speed does it change?
Discuss....
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Six30 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:17 pm

Joeman wrote:At 5mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike left.
At 60mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike right..
So at what speed does it change?
Discuss....

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by goat » Tue May 16, 2017 7:41 pm

Six30 wrote:
Joeman wrote:At 5mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike left.
At 60mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike right..
So at what speed does it change?
Discuss....

Is it when the African Swallow passes you at 35 mph during its migration .
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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Six30 » Tue May 16, 2017 7:47 pm

goat wrote:
Six30 wrote:
Joeman wrote:At 5mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike left.
At 60mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike right..
So at what speed does it change?
Discuss....

Is it when the African Swallow passes you at 35 mph during its migration .
Unladen?

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by NeilM » Tue May 16, 2017 7:52 pm

Ohhhh goodie
Nowt like a good counter steering row :cheers:

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Re: Not leaning over.

Post by Lateralus » Tue May 16, 2017 9:48 pm

goat wrote:
Six30 wrote:
Joeman wrote:At 5mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike left.
At 60mph pushing the right bar will turn the bike right..
So at what speed does it change?
Discuss....

Is it when the African Swallow passes you at 35 mph during its migration .
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